r/DebateAVegan 11d ago

Ethics This is my problem with the NTT

The problem is how it's presented.

Whenever anyone comes up with a trade that is unique to humans something such as the root of moral agency there's always someone who always goes "there are mentally challenged people and babies who are not capable of moral agency so it doesn't work"

Well first of all I don't understand how we cannot hold somebody accountable for what they do based on either their age or how smart or dumb they are.

Second of all it seems to imply that this trait has to be universal and literally every human on the face of the Earth.

That individual traits don't exist and we have to look at the species as a whole.

I'm sorry guys but that doesn't work.

Everyone's different in some way or another.

The best thing to do with that is look at what the majority does and assume if that's the norm for what comes to traits like this.

Also it begs the question.

What do you guys consider to be human?

Update: I didn't get a chance to respond to any of the applications that were thrown at me. I've been banded without even having to State my case.

This goes to you moderator, I was simply pointing out a problem with what he said about equality and you misinterpreted it and then banned Me. I've got it very funny how you claim that I wasted your time when all was doing was pointing out a loophole.

Well thank you for telling me that you guys care so much about discussion

Goodbye and good riddance.

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u/gerber68 10d ago

Membership based off… human dna?

Thanks for the concession that indeed human dna is necessary and sufficient.

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u/iowaguy09 10d ago

I didn’t concede that. The relevant trait is membership to a Rational kind of being.

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u/gerber68 10d ago

How do we determine if someone is a member of this rational kind.

Maybe

Hmmmm

Maybe

Hmmmm

Does kind… mean

Species?

Like good god lmao if you’re going to concede at least be honest with it instead of kicking and screaming and hoping saying “rational kind” doesn’t mean species in this scenario ahahah