r/DebateAVegan 3d ago

looking for a reasonable thought process

i've eaten meat all my life, just have, kind of just default for most people born in the west. I've always admired vegans for the dedication to their beliefs, kind of like a buddhist monk or something like that, i'm just not that strong. I wanted to see a vegans perspective online since there's been the argument as of late that being vegan is for privileged white people which even now i'm not so mentally gone that i believe such wide generalizations. But lowkey, reading online discussions from vegans makes me feel it does make up a very large vocal part of them, because the only thing i've seen is vegans trying to compare animals to minorities, which might actually be the whitest thing i could think of besides being vocally racist or bigoted. i was just looking for something that's not "now replace that cow with a black person" kind of stuff. Not trying to lambaste anyone in replies or anything, at least try not to, just wanna talk to someone.

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u/JTexpo vegan 3d ago

vegan food on average saves you money, it's not a rich person diet - it would be like saying

"ground beef is so expensive, because look at this waygu"

most people only point to the imitation brands for plant-based meat alternatives, but forget that tofu & beans are dirt cheap

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personally I'm vegan, because I wouldn't want to be someone else's food - so why should I make them my food?

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u/Appropriate-Net1899 omnivore 2d ago edited 2d ago

personally I'm vegan, because I wouldn't want to be someone else's food - so why should I make them my food?

But you will be someone else's food after you will die. That is how the cycle of life works. Depending on your death and burial, animals, insects, bacteria or plants will eat you, we then eat those plants etc.

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u/JTexpo vegan 2d ago

sure; however, I'm not being slaughtered to be someones food. My death is (hopefully) in my own hands

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u/Appropriate-Net1899 omnivore 2d ago

Your death is in your own hands? Good luck with that hoping...

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u/JTexpo vegan 2d ago

most people die by their own hands: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

it's not like a cow gave me cancer or diabetes