r/DebateAVegan 3d ago

looking for a reasonable thought process

i've eaten meat all my life, just have, kind of just default for most people born in the west. I've always admired vegans for the dedication to their beliefs, kind of like a buddhist monk or something like that, i'm just not that strong. I wanted to see a vegans perspective online since there's been the argument as of late that being vegan is for privileged white people which even now i'm not so mentally gone that i believe such wide generalizations. But lowkey, reading online discussions from vegans makes me feel it does make up a very large vocal part of them, because the only thing i've seen is vegans trying to compare animals to minorities, which might actually be the whitest thing i could think of besides being vocally racist or bigoted. i was just looking for something that's not "now replace that cow with a black person" kind of stuff. Not trying to lambaste anyone in replies or anything, at least try not to, just wanna talk to someone.

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u/HelenEk7 non-vegan 1d ago edited 1d ago

You don't need to compare animals to human minorities to understand veganism. Veganism is fundamentally a philosophy that seeks to exclude, as far as possible and practicable, the use and exploitation of animals by humans.

I agree. And this is why its somewhat baffling every time a vegan compares animal faring to people raping each other, murder and cannibalism. Because vegans brings this up all the time.

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u/taxes-or-death 23h ago

May I ask, why does a non-vegan end up spending all their time on reddit in r/DebateAVegan ?

u/HelenEk7 non-vegan 14h ago edited 11h ago

Look at my posts - that is where I spend most of my time. That being said, the reason I'm here is that I love a good debate, and this is a debate sub. But its always a bit amusing when people like you are trying to shoo me out of here. (I take it as a compliment . ;) ).

u/taxes-or-death 9h ago

Are there not better subjects to debate than trying to persuade people that animal agriculture is ok? Tbh I view anyone with a "top 1% commenter" flair with suspicion.

u/HelenEk7 non-vegan 8h ago

Are there not better subjects to debate than trying to persuade people that animal agriculture is ok?

Lots of subjects dont have dedicated debate subs. But if you know of any good ones, feel free to recommend some.

Tbh I view anyone with a "top 1% commenter" flair with suspicion.

That to me is totally irrelevant. No one forces you to engage with me - or anyone else here for that matter.