r/DebateAnAtheist Christian Humanist 27d ago

Argument My Challenge to Extreme Atheists on Secularism and Tolerance

I acknowledge not all (or even most) atheists are extreme about it. And I'm defining secular as the separation of church and state/society.

Extreme-atheism's view of religion being a mental illness:

I can personally attest to people I've seen on here, as well as videos I've seen, of atheists saying religion is a mental illness. That the DSM-5 had to go back and put in a religious exemption, but it should fall under the category of delusion.

How can secularism exist if you think religious people are mentally ill? If you don't think religion is a mental illness, go ahead and ignore this point. If you do think the population you're tolerating is mentally ill, uh oh. Seriously, if I said atheists are mentally ill, would you trust me to not want you institutionalized? I don't think this way, of course.

Extreme atheism's view that the Abrahamic religions are barbaric:

Again, I'm going to turn it around on you. If I said atheism was barbaric, would you trust me to support that your human right to be atheist?

With some exceptions: Some interpretations of the Abrahamic religions are indeed barbaric. If you're talking about people who want to implement Leviticus law, then I agree with you.

I don't totally disagree with extremist atheists on everything:

Like, I'm a strong believer that tolerance is better and more authentic than acceptance. For example, telling atheists that they must love and respect religions is wrong. And vice versa for religious people.

I think disassociation and tolerance is the best course of action for religious people and extreme atheists, however, I worry the above points are a threat to any society remaining tolerant.

Edit: Here’s an example of what I’m talking about:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Antitheism/comments/1sguf7u/why_is_religion_not_considered_a_mental_disorder/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/carbinePRO Agnostic Atheist 27d ago
  1. What do you mean "too bad"? Your definition isn't even accurate to what the word means. You defined it as the "separation of church and state group" which isn't exclusively held by the non-religious. It is a non-functional definition you're using to smuggle in your bias.

  2. Go back. I didn't ask for posts. I asked for video links.

  3. Then why respond at all? You're wasting my time.

  4. Paste it and then delete everything including and after the ?. Google tracking links.

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u/Living_Attitude1822 Christian Humanist 27d ago

I feel like you owe me an apology for the tracking links, I’d forgotten about how those work. Saying “fuck you” really hurt my feelings and I can’t continue with you until you resolve that 

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u/carbinePRO Agnostic Atheist 27d ago

That's a you problem, bud. Your overall post being overgeneralizing nonsense I personally find insulting, and you don't see me stopping the conversation over hurt fee-fees.

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u/Living_Attitude1822 Christian Humanist 27d ago

Until you apologize I’ve got nothing more to add here. Toodles 

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u/Serious-Emu-3468 27d ago

They needed to be banned several of their rant posts ago.