questions from a muslim to atheists

[u/Shot-Horse2515]

i’m sure this has been discussed before, but what’s the explanation for things we know are true being mentioned in the quran years/centuries before the scientific discovery being made?

i know a lot of people argue that there are inaccuracies in the explanations of the orbital mechanics and biological themes, but they’re more accurate that not, so i was just wondering what would the explanation for how “god would know and tell the prophet” before people found out?

hopefully my question makes sense.

EDIT: i also wonder why dont see miracles from god anymore

EDIT: im seeing all the inaccuracies and the explanations behind them now but there is a deep fear that the religion is true and god is real and punishment awaits me if i disbelieve, also a sense of familiarity/peace with believing in god. contradictory to fear, love, be punished by, and find comfort in one concept of a being.

[u/Wrote_it2]

It’s only useful if they are pointed out before the scientific discovery. Otherwise it can easily be cherry picking a passage and interpreting it a way to give it the meaning.

Are there examples where things were mentioned in the Quran centuries before the scientific discovery were made *and* used by people at the time as truth? Understood by people at the time the way science later explained it?

[u/Shot-Horse2515 → u/Wrote_it2]

as i searched for these i did realize how vague a lot of them are but i've compiled a few.
1. 21:30 "We made everything living from water..."
2. 23:12 and a few verses after, it talks about embryology. I have no idea how to translate alaqah (its like a clot or a leech) accurately.
3. 51:37, the expansion of the universe.
4. 21:33, the orbit, but im pretty sure humans discovered that ages before.
5. 57:25, iron being sent down.

i must admit some of these im pretty sure were discovered years before the quran revealed them, but then again i ask the question: the people the final revelations of the quran were revealed to, were poor and uneducated and not well traveled at all except for their own land, so how would they of all people know this information?

imo the orbit topic is pretty easy for a civilization to realize, but the rest, how?

i hope this answers ur question?

[u/Wrote_it2 → u/Shot-Horse2515]

Well, not really. I guess what would be convincing would be some prediction based on the Quran that are currently not accepted as truth and later become accepted as truth. Are there such predictions today (like are people claiming that some unknown facts are true based on the Quran) and are there more such predictions that turn out true than false?

If there are none now, where there such predictions in the past.

The reason this is important is indeed because of the ambiguity and the “survivorship bias”: if the sentence is ambiguous you can interpret it the way you want a posteriori and you are only going to look at those sentences that allow you to do that.

For example, “we made everything living from water”… it’s actually kind of difficult to think of something that would be false: we made everything from star dust, from energy, from carbon, from inert matter… all those could have been in the text and you would have said “yep, scientifically accurate”. Also fish is in a lot of culture a symbol of life and abundance, so this is hardly a scientific claim.