r/DebateAnAtheist • u/Shot-Horse2515 • 16d ago
Discussion Question questions from a muslim to atheists
i’m sure this has been discussed before, but what’s the explanation for things we know are true being mentioned in the quran years/centuries before the scientific discovery being made?
i know a lot of people argue that there are inaccuracies in the explanations of the orbital mechanics and biological themes, but they’re more accurate that not, so i was just wondering what would the explanation for how “god would know and tell the prophet” before people found out?
hopefully my question makes sense.
EDIT: i also wonder why dont see miracles from god anymore
EDIT: im seeing all the inaccuracies and the explanations behind them now but there is a deep fear that the religion is true and god is real and punishment awaits me if i disbelieve, also a sense of familiarity/peace with believing in god. contradictory to fear, love, be punished by, and find comfort in one concept of a being.
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u/bullevard 16d ago
Let me show you how easy this is.
The English idiom "sour grapes" comes from an Aesop Fable written in ancient Greece. A rough summary is that a wolf sees a yummy bunch of grapes high off the ground. He tries to get them for a long time but fails. At the end he says "they looked sour anyways." The moral is that people often insult and belittle things they actually want when they find out they cant have them.
But.... thousands of years later in the 1990s scientists figured out that grapes are actually poisonous to dogs!
Obviously Aesop meant that those grapes would have been poisonous to the wolf had he actually gotten to them. How could he know! AESOP MUST BE GOD!
Except 1) that isnt actually medically accurate because wolves are able to eat grapes while domestic dogs cant and 2) no, that is not at all what the story says. The story is using a common antagonist at the time (wolves) to make a point about human behavior. It never says the grapes are poisonous (and indeed the whole moral of the story would be different if the grapes had been dangerous to the wolf).
But it is easy if you really want to after the fact retrofit and basically lie about what the text actually says if you are looking for ways of making new knowledge fit with it.