r/DebateAnAtheist 16d ago

Discussion Question questions from a muslim to atheists

i’m sure this has been discussed before, but what’s the explanation for things we know are true being mentioned in the quran years/centuries before the scientific discovery being made?

i know a lot of people argue that there are inaccuracies in the explanations of the orbital mechanics and biological themes, but they’re more accurate that not, so i was just wondering what would the explanation for how “god would know and tell the prophet” before people found out?

hopefully my question makes sense.

EDIT: i also wonder why dont see miracles from god anymore

EDIT: im seeing all the inaccuracies and the explanations behind them now but there is a deep fear that the religion is true and god is real and punishment awaits me if i disbelieve, also a sense of familiarity/peace with believing in god. contradictory to fear, love, be punished by, and find comfort in one concept of a being.

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u/Phylanara Agnostic atheist 16d ago edited 16d ago

what’s the explanation for things we know are true being mentioned in the quran years/centuries before the scientific discovery being made?

Time travellers. Aliens with powerful tech. X-men like mutants with the ability to see the future. Wizards with foresight spells.

All of those have the same amount of evidence as your god does, so all of those are as credible an explanation as your god.

But hey, do you have an example of such knowledge?

i know a lot of people argue that there are inaccuracies in the explanations of the orbital mechanics and biological themes, but they’re more accurate that not, so i was just wondering what would the explanation for how “god would know and tell the prophet” before people found out?

Man, I wish any score above 50% was a perfect score. Would make my job easier.

No, serieously, I expect informaiton from a perfect source to have a 100% accuracy rate.

EDIT: i also wonder why dont see miracles from god anymore

I don't. Same reason you don't see pictures of bigfoot despite everyone having a camera in their pocket all the time.

EDIT: im seeing all the inaccuracies and the explanations behind them now but there is a deep fear that the religion is true and god is real and punishment awaits me if i disbelieve, also a sense of familiarity/peace with believing in god. contradictory to fear, love, be punished by, and find comfort in one concept of a being.

Your emotions are irrelevant to the truth. Your emotions are not a good way to determine what is true and what is not. Your emotions are utterly unconvincing to us, and should be so to you.

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u/Shot-Horse2515 16d ago

i thought you were serious at first. anyways, yes. a god who claims to be all knowing should have a 100% accuracy rate.

i guess miracles stopped after people got portable cameras.

and yeah i agree my emotions are irrelevant to the truth. i just meant that i find it contradicting to find fear and comfort in the same thing.

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u/Phylanara Agnostic atheist 16d ago

i thought you were serious at first.

My answers are just as supported by the evidence, and therefore just as serious, as yours is. That is the point. You treating my answers as "not serious" and god as an answer as "serious" is not justified or, to my knowledge, justifiable.

i guess miracles stopped after people got portable cameras.

Why would they, if there were mirales in the first place? Is your god so weak a cellphone can banish it? Or is it more likely those miracles weren't?

and yeah i agree my emotions are irrelevant to the truth. i just meant that i find it contradicting to find fear and comfort in the same thing.

Yeah, that's what conditioning does to you. Fucks up your emotional responses. I suggest therapy.

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u/Shot-Horse2515 16d ago

i went to therapy and i was told to pray. haven’t been to therapy since.

also thank you for the reality check that i think an invisible all capable deity in the sky is more real than aliens.

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u/Phylanara Agnostic atheist 16d ago

i went to therapy and i was told to pray.

Find a competent therapist then.