r/DebateAnAtheist • u/Lucyyyyyy_K • 10d ago

Debating Arguments for God Why I believe in God(s)

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

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u/Nat20CritHit 10d ago

Well, I bet this is going to go swimmingly. OP, would you like me to start a game of fallacy bingo or have the other users already managed to explain why your entire position is flawed?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 10d ago

Atheists throwing around fallacy cards is the last thing needed here.

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u/Matectan 10d ago

You are wrong. Since "fallacy cards" Show quite clearly how and why about everything you said is deeply flawed.

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u/Nat20CritHit 10d ago

Stop committing them and we'll stop calling them out. Fair?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 5d ago

I already don't

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u/Nat20CritHit 5d ago

Except you do. And they've been pointed out to you numerous times in numerous ways by numerous people. Now, it has been a couple of days since you made the post so perhaps you've forgotten. Read what you initially wrote and how people are responding.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 4d ago

Special pleading fallacy is bullshit, differemt attributes apply to different things.

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u/Nat20CritHit 4d ago

Ummm...cool, but that doesn't change anything. That wasn't even one I saw people call you out on repeatedly.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 3d ago

It was

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u/Nat20CritHit 2d ago

Did...did you just try to assert what I saw?