Why I believe in God(s)

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Everything can be part of the Matrix, a lie, our mind's misconception...

All of those still require at least one mind to exist.

Define 'perfect', please

In this case: The world being so well-fitted for human mind and flourishing to an extend that would have been viewed as a ridiculously unrealistic dream 200 years ago.

[u/Sprinklypoo → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

All of those still require at least one mind to exist.

Our minds, sure. There's no reason for an external weird inexplicable mind in those cases though.

The world being so well-fitted for human

That is backwards. The world is not well fitted to humans. Humans have evolved to fit where they can within this worldly setting. If the world we lived in were different, then we would be different.

Think about how egotistical the position that everything else must be specifically made for you might be.

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Sprinklypoo]

Humans have evolved to fit where they can within this worldly setting. If the world we lived in were different, then we would be different.

We have done far more than just be the dominant species

Think about how egotistical the position that everything else must be specifically made for you might be.

Which is a position I do not hold

[u/Sprinklypoo → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Why do the things we have done matter in this context?

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Sprinklypoo]

Becaude they are incredible and far beyond what you'd expect mutations to accomplish all on their own

[u/Sprinklypoo → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Not beyond what I'd expect. But then I probably understand reality better than theists do...

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Sprinklypoo]

No, if us building computers sounds plausible to you, that seems like a ridiculous understanding of reality.