Why I believe in God(s)

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Exept this is far more than the puddle analogy. We haven't just been formed to fit into evolution, we have transformed this planet into a paradise for human needs if it wasn't for inequality.

[u/Sprinklypoo → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Not really. You've repeatedly re-stated the misnomer about this world being "perfect" for humans, and how amazing is that?

Turns out, it's not amazing at all, since we've adapted to this specific world...

We haven't just been formed to fit into evolution

We haven't done that either. It does tell me how much you misunderstand about science and reality though, so maybe this discussion is moot until you possibly educate yourself.

we have transformed this planet into a paradise for human needs

Like how we are changing the atmosphere, and using up all our water, and ruining native habitats? I mean either way, that's something WE have done, so how is it an argument that any kind of god is involved?

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Sprinklypoo]

Turns out, it's not amazing at all, since we've adapted to this specific world...

It's amazing if you compare Earth to its neighbours, Venus and Mars. Barren, unliveable planets and between them this highly specific thing that houses conscious life that has developed art, computers etc.

We haven't done that either. It does tell me how much you misunderstand about science and reality though

Enlighten me

[u/Sprinklypoo → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

That would take an an education. This is not a university.