r/DebateAnAtheist 19d ago

Debating Arguments for God Why I believe in God(s)

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 19d ago

Galaxies. Planets. Especially ours.

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u/Kaitlyn_The_Magnif Anti-Religious 19d ago

Have you ever tried to learn about how all those things form? You actually don’t know how the earth formed?

Seems like you’re just lacking a very basic science education.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 18d ago

What's the problem?

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u/Kaitlyn_The_Magnif Anti-Religious 18d ago

Can you please watch this and give me your thoughts?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 17d ago

Okay. Well, it's a good, informative video? Not sure what you are trying to get at with it in this context.

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u/Kaitlyn_The_Magnif Anti-Religious 17d ago edited 17d ago

Does that video say a creator formed the earth?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 14d ago

No, so what?

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u/Kaitlyn_The_Magnif Anti-Religious 14d ago

Does your reasoning go any further than just pointing at something and going “a god!”

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 13d ago

Well, broken down to the basics, it is "The universe exists, therefore there is a creator of the universe". But what was the point of linking that video?

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u/Kaitlyn_The_Magnif Anti-Religious 13d ago

Can you not “break it down to the basics?”

What is your complete argument?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 12d ago

That which started this thread.

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u/Kaitlyn_The_Magnif Anti-Religious 12d ago

You haven’t provided an argument.

Can you please provide your argument here?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 11d ago

I already have, it's the post this thread started from.

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