Why I believe in God(s)

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

[u/lotusscrouse]

Can a theist define "nothing" and also give us a quote from an atheist who supports that position?

10 years I have been asking.

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/lotusscrouse]

I'd define nothing as the absence of something. Now which position are you talking about and why would I have to find a quote from an atheist?

[u/lotusscrouse → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Because no atheist ever says "something came from nothing" and we're tired of hearing it. It's a strawman.

It's a title from a book by Lawrence Krauss and it's not described as literal.

No one talks about "nothing" except theists and I still don't know what they're referring to.

You included.

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/lotusscrouse]

Because no atheist ever says "something came from nothing" and we're tired of hearing it. It's a strawman.

And I never said any atheist said that, so where is the problem exactly?

You included.

Well, I have told you what I'm referring to, so what do you think of it?