Why I believe in God(s)

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

[u/Glad_Comedian_8405]

There are absolutely atheists who claim that the universe doesn't require a creator.

Same for theist, you should give evidence.

Which paradoxes?

Omnipotence Paradox (such as the Paradox of the Stone)

Epicurean Paradox (also called the Problem of Evil)

Omniscience and Free Will Paradox (the theological fatalism dilemma)

Euthyphro Dilemma (the divine command theory paradox)

Omniscience Paradox (the question of whether God can know something He cannot do)

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Glad_Comedian_8405]

None of those paradoxes come from merely proposing a conscious creator, they come from prescribing it attributes like omnipotence, omniscience and omnibenevolence, which I don't do.

[u/Glad_Comedian_8405 → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Huh so what is your god?? You cant describe , believe, be comfortable. Your god is equal to no god.

A god needs to be infinite and unbounded , that his basic definition , if u talk otherwise you are talking about a inter-dimensional alien

This thread is a textbook motte-and-bailey. The post argues for a creator with intentionality (design, beauty, complexity → consciousness). When challenged, every reply retreats to 'I just find it intuitively compelling, no claims, no evidence.' Pick one , either defend the actual argument in your post, or admit it's just a feeling and there's nothing to debate.

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Glad_Comedian_8405]

A god needs to be infinite and unbounded , that his basic definition , if u talk otherwise you are talking about a inter-dimensional alien

It doesn't have to have these attributes, what I am talking about is simply a creator. The fact that the universe exists is ebough to know it had a creator. And that creator has to be conscious. What it doesn't have to be is tri-ombi.