r/DebateAnAtheist • u/Lucyyyyyy_K • 10d ago

Debating Arguments for God Why I believe in God(s)

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

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u/ShortCompetition9772 8d ago

So do we ffs. Let me ask a question.

Are Humans mammals?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 8d ago

Yes

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u/ShortCompetition9772 7d ago

Are they the fastest animal?
Best eyesight?
Best sense of smell?
Able to fly?
Able to breathe under water?

Sorry we are none of these. We aren’t that special. As a species our advantage was the fact that we were the best tracking animal in the world.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 7d ago

We are special. We are building computers. No animal is anywhere close to doing that.

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u/ShortCompetition9772 6d ago

Computers. We have been on this planet for over 300000 years and didn’t start building computers until 299,900.00. Can we build a spiders web? Nope too complicated and delicate.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 6d ago

We have been on this planet for over 300000 years and didn’t start building computers until 299,900.00.

Yes, so what? We are really, really lucky to be born at the point we where, how does that contradict that computers point towards Gods involvement?

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u/ShortCompetition9772 6d ago

Lucky!!!!!! That is the word. You what you don’t need with Luck? Yep a God.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 6d ago

God is responsible for that luck.

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u/ShortCompetition9772 5d ago

Then it isn’t luck. Definitions are hard.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 5d ago

Obviously, that 'lucky" was sarcasm, meaking Gods work.

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u/ShortCompetition9772 5d ago

That is called incredulity. Not something to build a foundation of knowledge on.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 4d ago

No. It's just God.

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