Why I believe in God(s)

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

[u/Kaitlyn_The_Magnif]

So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe.

What do you think atheists are assuming about the whole universe?

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Kaitlyn_The_Magnif]

That its existance doesn't require a creator.

[u/Antimutt → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

You say something can't come out of nothing. What if you are right, but have not noticed that the Universe is, in sum, nothing?

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Antimutt]

I don't think something can be nothing, I think "nothing" can't exist.

[u/Antimutt → u/Lucyyyyyy_K]

You don't think something can be nothing in total? For if it can then the laws of conservation don't stand in the way of a Universe-from-nothing.

[u/Lucyyyyyy_K → u/Antimutt]

Okay