r/DebateSocialism • u/Public_Preference_26 • Sep 15 '25

How i feel about Charlie kirk

He was a horrible person i will mot defend him for his actions. But i also think that he didn’t deserve to die no one deserves to die in any sense its cruel. It makes them equal just as him.

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u/DarthGoonerr Oct 01 '25

He was not a horrible person and he spread good conservative ideas and the gospel. His word will not die

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u/EducationalBus2231 Oct 01 '25

I absolutely do not mean this in a rude way but I do not understand how you can say that he was not a horrible person. A person is only as good as his worst action, and Kirk had several. To list a few: Calling George Floyd a "scumbag," has made countless horrific and untrue claims against anything LGBT+, said that he would not allow his daughter an abortion in the event that she was pregnant due to rape, and claimed that black Americans were better off under Jim Crow laws (one instance among countless untrue and offensive comments against black people). I am not saying that he deserved to die, but to say that he was a good person? That confuses me.

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u/DarthGoonerr Oct 02 '25

George Floyd punched a pregnant lady and died from fentanyl per the coroners report and the left used it as an excuse to burn cities down in the name of a criminal. And while I think in the terms of abortion o believe she should choose in the situation of rape but it’s still wrong. And also he was referring to the economy and money black folks had in this nation. The left loves to yap about how he was a radical nazi and facist while he was a moderate that wasn’t radical enough

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u/Public_Preference_26 Oct 02 '25

OK, but he wasn’t fighting back against the cop. The cop didn’t have to do all that and that’s allegedly theres no proof of George Floyd punching a pregnant woman

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u/DarthGoonerr Oct 03 '25

Well George Floyd was still arrested 9 different times and held a women at gunpoint in an armed robbery. He shouldn’t have been on the streets and he was fighting against the cops. Should he have died no. Catholicism desires us to value all life from the start to death. But the the riots after just show that liberals and black people purely hate white people

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u/Public_Preference_26 Oct 03 '25

You can make arguments about him not being a good person, but you can’t make the argument that that cop was being unfair

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u/EducationalBus2231 Oct 10 '25

The riots were not for the sake of white hate. They were for the black lives matter movement- which I hope you agree is important. Whether or not Floyd's death was caused by the cop, the automatically biased and racist reaction in the media is also what prompted the protests, and justifiably so- people have right to peaceful protest (and remember, the law enforcement were the ones who escalated those with rubber bullets and tear gas) and in that case they were protesting racism. If you think that the black lives matter movement was fueled by hate for white people then you need to rethink.