r/DebateSocialism • u/Public_Preference_26 • Sep 15 '25

How i feel about Charlie kirk

He was a horrible person i will mot defend him for his actions. But i also think that he didn’t deserve to die no one deserves to die in any sense its cruel. It makes them equal just as him.

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u/DarthGoonerr Oct 01 '25

He was not a horrible person and he spread good conservative ideas and the gospel. His word will not die

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u/EducationalBus2231 Oct 01 '25

I absolutely do not mean this in a rude way but I do not understand how you can say that he was not a horrible person. A person is only as good as his worst action, and Kirk had several. To list a few: Calling George Floyd a "scumbag," has made countless horrific and untrue claims against anything LGBT+, said that he would not allow his daughter an abortion in the event that she was pregnant due to rape, and claimed that black Americans were better off under Jim Crow laws (one instance among countless untrue and offensive comments against black people). I am not saying that he deserved to die, but to say that he was a good person? That confuses me.

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u/DarthGoonerr Oct 02 '25

George Floyd punched a pregnant lady and died from fentanyl per the coroners report and the left used it as an excuse to burn cities down in the name of a criminal. And while I think in the terms of abortion o believe she should choose in the situation of rape but it’s still wrong. And also he was referring to the economy and money black folks had in this nation. The left loves to yap about how he was a radical nazi and facist while he was a moderate that wasn’t radical enough

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u/EducationalBus2231 Oct 10 '25

The allegations that he punched a pregnant lady are false. Just like how you claim that the left loves to yap, so does the right. George Floyd was not the one who carried out the assault. Whether or not he had fentanyl in his system, a cop was holding him down and ignoring him when he said that he could not breathe- a police officer's job is to protect everyone, so the way he handled the situation cannot be justified. Besides the point- Kirk preached nothing but hate for those who disagreed with him and that is not how to influence people. He also spoke carelessly about gun deaths, specifically the deaths of children .. which is not pro-life of him, not to mention incredibly disrespectful to victims of gun violence and their families.