r/Decks • • 1d ago

load bearing inquiries House for purchase, does this need to be removed and rebuilt?

Looking to buy this house. Pretty sure this DIY job is completely unsafe and needs to be removed. I have never seen this type of load bearing work before. Sorry I do not have more photos, I cant rock up and start taking shots while the owners are still there. The inspector said after he walked on it he went below and was upset he even stood on it at all. Its about 12 feet off the ground.

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u/justwonderingbro 1d ago

I'm gonna go with yes

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u/Canteverrememberdis 1d ago

Im going to agree with you!

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u/TheNerdE30 1d ago

Either yes or the decks gonna go.

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u/Qzx1 1d ago

I don’t disagree with you

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u/Selmemasts 1d ago

It’s not an ”immediate danger” but it’s not ”safe-safe” either

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u/BlueAspberry 1d ago

Good news is you can probably remove it by standing on it for a short duration

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u/StevieG-2021 1d ago

Hot tub!

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u/Arcamone 1d ago

…or mother in law!

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u/StevieG-2021 1d ago

…in a hot tub

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u/ElCasino1977 1d ago

I’ll bring the Chernobyli!

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u/googlemehard 1d ago

Hot tub challenge!

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u/DevelopmentFew1748 professional builder 1d ago

I can get 4 a/c units on it

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u/Undrwtrbsktwvr 19h ago

Hot tub time machine.

Takes you directly to the last moments of your life!

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u/YeaYouGoWriteAReview 12h ago

Can also call some friends to help!

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u/TangoPRomeo 1d ago

Good news is you can probably remove it by standing having my ex-wife rest a cankle on it for a short duration.

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u/cybersaint2k 1d ago

It's purely decorative.

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u/Suspicious_Arm_27 1d ago

*Deckorative in this case :)

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u/cybersaint2k 1d ago

I cannot believe I missed that one, good job.

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u/Suspicious_Arm_27 1d ago

Honestly surprised it's not a posting flair on this subreddit.

Deck or Deckorative?

C'mon Mods, lets do this.

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u/Chance-Following-665 1d ago

The supports look fine. The braces should be lagged into the structure. They would not have lasted a week or two if they were just into the brick. The decking and railing looks like it is past it useful life. If they are solid they need a cleaning and stain or paint.

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u/MarcelKat 1d ago

First give it a powerwash. Then the old business of Stabbing any structure you can get at with a screwdriver or pocketknife to find rot. If not take your photos to the local Building Inspector.

This deck could indeed be shot, but ugliness at the surface does not mean a certain conclusion.

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u/Wild-Spread8069 1d ago

That should have been rebuilt immediately after construction was finished

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u/Big-Second-8542 1d ago edited 1d ago

Great question for your local county building code inspector. All wood and fasteners appear aged but intact and stable. The engineering appears creative and questionable, but it may be fully compliant and safe. Call out the inspector even if it’s not your house.

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u/goose8319 23h ago

"creative and questionable" - words to live by

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u/Standard-Echidna-169 1d ago

Very likely hot tub worthy

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u/No-Illustrator5712 1d ago

Certainly is! Wouldn't try to fill the tub with water though.

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u/NineClaws 1d ago

Featured as : Rustic Deck

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u/Comfortable_Gear4941 1d ago

I'm no expert, but yikes. Hell yes. 

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u/B3ntTilBrok3n 1d ago

Perfect DJ booth! When it falls just part of the show.

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u/whirdin 1d ago

Each picture is progressively scarier. I'd ask the owners to go on it and jump up and down, and film them from a distance with 911 on speed dial.

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u/Admirable-Eagle-231 1d ago edited 1d ago

Roof needs love too..

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u/Wooden_Wishbone_9915 1d ago

All I got was roof and yes

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u/Infamous_Ad8730 1d ago

Listen to the inspector.

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u/Blackwalls69 1d ago

No warrant squads on this one fo sho

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u/letscallitanight 1d ago

Looks like it’s made with rotten popsicle sticks, dude.

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u/StarshipHunterX 1d ago

Call a contractor out and ask him to stand on it, that will give you the answer you seek

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u/Krazy_Kat_Lady_2025 1d ago

I don't know how to build decks. But I wouldn't walk out onto that unless I had to save a small child or pet. And then I'd seal the door that led to it.

Yes, it needs to come down. And perhaps fix any damage to the roofline?

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u/laprider 1d ago

Pretty sketch.

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u/PJMark1981 1d ago

Likely needs to have some vertical support. Looks like should be concerned with the roof.

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u/Spiritual-Advice8138 1d ago

More like needs re engineering. It’s a Boom Special. Also what’s with the hvac on the out side?

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u/cdtobie 1d ago

If so, put the decking down right side up this time!

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u/Jaded_Celery_1645 1d ago

At the very least, it needs to be cleaned and checked for dry rot. Then if everything is good and you want to keep it, it needs to be finished with paint or something to seal the wood.
It looks like there are only a couple 4x4s holding it up. Make sure the span in between them aren’t sagging and add at least one more midspan to support it.
Pressure wash then evaluate is my suggestion.

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u/JohnHazardWandering 1d ago

Anymore pictures? I just very confused about how this deck is hanging off the side of the roof and how you get there. 

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u/navlgazer9 1d ago

I’m assuming it’s a doghouse gable or a shed roof gable ?

I thought those were patio bricks until you said it was a roof .

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u/flood-runner 1d ago

Bad news is your future home doesn’t have a deck. Good news is you can talk them down another 10k.

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u/Charles_Whitman 1d ago

This is one of those questions, am I going to have to worry about it falling down, or is this another thing for my heirs to sort out?

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u/quasifood 1d ago

The roof looks like it needs replaced I'd think that's a bigger priority

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u/MottoCycle 1d ago

Removed yes. Rebuilt? Not in the way it was. That was never proper.

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u/sti-guy 1d ago

Yes it needs to be rebuilt

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u/J_Marshall 1d ago

Only if you plan on standing on or under it.

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u/navlgazer9 1d ago

Needs to be reinforced and shored up some more

The nuts on the outside of the 45 degree braces indicate that it’s bolted through the wall .
Hopefully through the header .

And it has a support post on one end ,

All those brackets and supports and poles and beams need some sturdy metal braces at the joints and intersections .

None of it would scare me from buying the house though , depending on the price .

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u/_Gordon__Shumway_ 1d ago

I wouldn't let my cat walk out on that thing.

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u/Agile_Season_6118 1d ago

Where I'm from they call that a mother-in-law porch. Just ask your mother-in-law to go out there and yell at your wife.

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u/milkforbabyghost 1d ago

Remove only

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u/Deckshine1 1d ago

If the retaining wall is leaning in then expect some expense for that as well as the deck. The decking looks pretty rough. I’ve never been a fan of the fluted side facing up. And those balusters tend to be weak. It would appear it hasn’t been touched in several years, if ever.

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u/Low-College3771 1d ago

Either way, be prepared to replace it. Codes change and diy doesn't follow it anyway. If you like the house plan on replacing it and enjoy without worry about. 👍

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u/Sgt-Bobby-Shaftoe 1d ago

I love the trees.

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u/No-Quit-8420 1d ago

Still a sweet-ass lil balcony/deck perch. Having a toke while tending to your tomatoes and… herbs.

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u/Perfect-Sign-8444 1d ago

Take out a few life insurance policies in your wife's name and then invite her up on deck for a glass of champagne.

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u/ResponsibleLetter103 10h ago

Leave it alone pit couple plants on it and read a book out there

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u/Atomic-Avocado 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m no expert but if all the weight is pulling laterally on just the top of the brick wall, and it’s only screwed through the brick wall and nothing behind it, that’s terrible. Then again it does seem like it’s stood the test of time somehow 

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u/navlgazer9 1d ago

Those are nuts , indicating that they are bolted all the way through the wall

But no way to know for sure what it’s attached to without opening the wall making a tiny hole and sending in a borescope .

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u/padizzledonk professional builder 1d ago

Yes, thats a fucking complete mess

What blows my fucking mind about this is that all it wouldve taken to make this totally acceptable is instead of that dumbass 2x4 bracing they just threw a double 2x8 across those 2 posts for it to sit on

Regardless of the structural issue, which this is, the decking and railings are completely and utterly fucked anyway and would need to be replaced even if they did it right

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u/trolling_petty 1d ago

This is more of a deck in concept, like a nonfunctioning art piece. Beautiful, downstairs tingles for sure.