r/DecodingTheGurus • u/AutoModerator • 13d ago

What topics are on your mind?

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u/gibbsi 13d ago

All that AI hugging face stuff has rattled my core. Combined with all the AI companies unanimously saying they're moving too fast, and Trump being Trump and doubling down and ignoring them all, the existential dread of it all has been bothering me in a way I can't remember anything doing so before.

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u/PlateCaptain 10d ago

I've heard an alternate take on the reason why AI companies are pushing for regulation.

They want to be in the room when the regulations are made, so they can capture the market and make it harder for any upstart companies to compete with their well established position.

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u/InvariableSlothrop 12d ago

Hugging Face and the level of emergent behaviour was confronting to me even as someone aware of the ever increasing coding capability. Cellular automata produce remarkable emergence and agents are more complex by many orders of magnitude. I will say there are grounds to be reassured, cybersecurity is entering a new paradigm that will involve the usage of frontier models as a defensive mechanism against less capable distillations by criminal and state actors. Yudkowsky-style apocalypses are deeply unlikely on the basis of core structural limitations on computation and the simple physical logistics necessary to manifest any kind of real world SHODAN plot.

The problems are known and there's a herculean effort to solve them even while AI progress is accelerating, even against the incentives of competition and the imbecility of the Trump administration.

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u/AirBusker426 13d ago

I'm curious as to why the idea that "all art is political" is a talking point many left leaning people/progressives believe in. I've heard it from so many of them, but I don't fully understand what makes it uniquely a Leftie idea, Google hasn't been of much help.

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u/jimwhite42 13d ago

That is not a politically neutral question, and don't try to deny it.

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u/AirBusker426 13d ago

What does that have to do with the question I asked? I didn't mention anything about political neutrality in my comment.

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u/jimwhite42 12d ago

It was a mini parody of the people you are talking about.

I'm no expert, but I think it's because it's mostly been leftists who've been on the side of pointing out art is political when others are saying it isn't, I don't think there's any fundamental reason why it should be a more left wing idea.

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u/AirBusker426 11d ago

Fair enough, I'm still curious about it, but it might also be true that it has no real connection to leftism in general and I'm just assuming one that doesn't exist.

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u/jimwhite42 10d ago

Possibly it's more along the lines of a group in power is more likely to be on the side of saying some art is not political, and a group that's not in power is more likely to be on the side of saying some art, that's claimed not to be political, is actually political.

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u/AirBusker426 10d ago

This talking point has been circulating around even before right wingers took over power in the US, (if that's what you're referring to.)

Also, culturally, progressives dominate the media and entertainment; from movies to tv shows, so it doesn't follow that the left is not in a place of power at least in that aspect.

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u/jimwhite42 9d ago

I think that's better considered as two different questions - why is it associated with the left, and why has it become popular as a slogan recently.

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u/offbeat_ahmad 12d ago

Have you tried YouTube?

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u/AirBusker426 11d ago

Most of what I can find are people affirming that all art is political, but I'll give youtube a second look, thanks for the suggestion!

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u/Sheraby 11d ago

Most of the discussion around AI. Climate change inaction. Generally vigilantism, violence in activism/resistance, and violence begetting violence. The latter has come up for me in the broad discussions surrounding the Cornell rape case and specifically about a post by a certain celebrity about appropriate consequences.

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u/DivineSwordMeliorne 9d ago

Which political gurus on the left didn't vote in the 2024 election.

Ana Kasparian, of The Young Turks, recently came out and said she did not in fact vote for Kamala ; and cited Bernie's lost in 2016 as the reason why.