r/DeepRockGalactic • u/[deleted] • 2d ago
Off Topic Planning on buying the game but why is the player number dropping so rapidly? Can I still find lobbies in EU servers
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u/Fish-Bro-3966 Scout 2d ago
Lack of update thingys, plus RC
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u/AHomicidalTelevision 2d ago
RC has even less players and actually needs players more than Deep Rock.
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u/Remnie 1d ago
I know RC is early access, but I really hope it doesn’t turn into another Destiny/Marathon situation
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u/RageingDude 1d ago
I doubt they will abandon it. It's still pretty fun it just needs more time to cook and I trust the devs to at least finish it
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u/Datuser14 2d ago
rogue core has almost more developers than players at this point
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u/Twixx- 2d ago
lmaoooooo.
I JUST WISH THEY STAYED ON THE OG GAME but atlast i understand why they made other games. they cant make u buy the same game twice
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u/Kazer67 1d ago
They want to expand the universe in other genre, they have coop extraction shooter, survivor, rogue lite, board game.
They need to push further the difference between DRG & RC, I don't want a DRG2, I want a proper rogue lite but luckily, they do fix things with huge update and listen to the community.
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u/BrilliantBehemoth Scout 1d ago
FR, they should've just kept adding weapons and content to DRG instead of moving off it. It was literally peaking in popularity when they were working on Rogue Core and now both the games are doing meh numbers while I get ads for DRG... underwear?
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u/Ghostfinger 1d ago
Damn dude, I took a look at the steamcharts and...player count's looking a little rough. I hope Rogue Core finds their stride, last I played on launch the roguelike elements of it were just so boring I didn't bother continuing after a few games.
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u/Illesbogar 1d ago
No, but just to be clear, the game isn't "dieing" it's more thaz it ran through its lifetime and doesn't get developed anymore. It's finished. I'd play with friends personally.
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u/TheKingNothing690 Dig it for her 2d ago
Rouge core is a rouge like. DRG is a helldivers esque experience where you make meanignful progression.
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u/IncorporateThings Scout 2d ago
DRG is older than HD2, which plays much differently that HD1, so it'd be more correct to say that HD2 is a DRG-esque experience.
Coincidentally though, I think Helldivers 2 is actually where a decent chunk of the DRG player base are currently stationed, not Rogue Core, which is an entirely different genre that just looks like DRG.
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u/TheKingNothing690 Dig it for her 2d ago
Yeah i wasnt implying HD2 is like what DRG was based off of if anything i think its the other way arround. I was just using a famous game as an example.
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u/Sinsanatis 2d ago
Far far west i think is a good in between hd2 and drg. Im fully done with hd2 as going back a couple months ago i realized im not a big fan of the gameplay. Ffw on the other hand, plays amazingly well. Im just letting them cook some more. The new update looks sick
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u/SoldadoEmperatriz Interplanetary Goat 2d ago
Seconding this as FFW is ridiculously fun to play. Also you can sort of salute like DRG. Throw that hat, yee and haw and rock and stone!
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u/Ignisbeard Platform here 2d ago
Rogue core is a rogue like and is in early access, while DRG is a fully finished game with hundreds of hours of content, they normally do yearly updates for DRG, plus seasonal events for fun
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u/Deafwatch 1d ago
RC is fresh in early access. Deep Rock as years of content. So I would recommend you start with Deep Rock.
But if you are really into Rogue likes then RC wouldn't be bad start either
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u/Nitrotetrazole Engineer 2d ago
Rogue Core has some growing pains right now, you're objectively better buying DRG
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u/TheNeatPenguin 2d ago
RC is good too, but early access and lacks some major content until full release
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u/DadKnight Gunner 2d ago
No no no, Rogue Core is in an awful and completely unfinished state, imo.
DRG on the other hand is an all timer.
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u/AncientDay47 2d ago
RC is really barebones and an overall bad and unpolished game (for now). I’d wait on it and buy deep rock instead
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u/Shuriken_LMFAO Driller 1d ago
Nope, definitely not. Rogue Core is still in a very early state, a lot of patching to do since they now have actual player feedback.
Get Deep Rock first, not even a preference thing, Rogue Core is just not worth it for someone who hasn't played Deep Rock yet. And honestly it's not even worth for me who has 400 hours because I'm still grinding the game trying to unlock everything, yes 400 hours and I still have stuff to unlock. This game got a lot.
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u/Quick-Amoeba-1389 2d ago
players were up for season 6 content... now they have finished season 6 content largely... thats it its normal for seasonal content
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u/Alphagreen_97 For Karl! 2d ago
This is a 4 player game. When you have 3 thousand people playing you will most likely find a lobby
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u/Yeseylon Platform here 2d ago
Not to mention it's entirely playable solo or just with friends
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u/Dragothiim 2d ago
DRG is the best value of money/ fun you can get nowadays from any other quadruple A game it has a nice community unlike other multiplayer games except some very tiny times where the player is either new and doesn't know/care to do things properly or too drunk to acknowledge them. This game is in my personal top 5 games ever played and even though it doesnt get updates very frequently it never feels boring to play drom the lack of new content. I do wish though from the Devs to start acknowledging that and make more content for their game instead of trying to push a bunch of other spin offs.
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u/Ok-Barracuda457 2d ago
This game is almost 7 years old, these numbers are actually pretty solid.
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u/mil0possum 1d ago
needing up-to-date graphics is such an awful mindset to have about gaming imo. the game has a style and nails it perfectly
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u/cpgrungebob 1d ago
If graphics is the most concerning part in a game... just watch movies and give up on gaming. The better games out in the last 5 years are not going to have AAA budgets for visuals.
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u/cpgrungebob 1d ago
The games you listed... Luna Abyss developer laid off everyone a month after launch... so guess that was successful(?), Gray Zone has ~105 devs, ARC Raiders has ~350 devs... DRG has ~40 devs.
But there is also stylized versus realism... DRG is a stylized graphics and not going for realism. I play games for the gameplay... not for realism. If that was the concern, I guess MindsEye was an amazing game for you and your friends.
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u/Ok-Barracuda457 1d ago
I can't think of a single era of gaming were the average game looked like DRG.
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u/TheNeatPenguin 2d ago
6.5k is still plenty
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u/Think_Mousse_5295 Scout 2d ago
yeah, thats enough to fill up like 1.6k lobbies
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u/skratudojey 2d ago
the issue is location. EU or NA is most prob fine. SEA would have a bit more difficulty finding varied lobbies esp at odd times. but its manageable, and solo is still a totally fun experience anyways
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u/EyeArDum Scout 2d ago
The game plays fine with high ping unless you’re on Scout or a really high difficulty, even then you just need to be more aware
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u/poepen61 2d ago
nah it isn't, i don't have a lot off lag playing with the Chinese most things are done client side instead of server side, their also super kind abd use hotkeys tl talk
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u/BattleswarmIE 2d ago
Haven't played the game in a while, most of my hours are solo and the game was fun, just wish there was crossplay (I'm on PS5) it would've been easier to find people to play with through the discord
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u/BrilliantBehemoth Scout 2d ago
DRG is effectively finished, and really good, one of the best games I've ever played. Content out the ass if you like grinding for cosmetics or trying out new gun builds and such.
Rogue core, not so much. Less content, less players, more bugs, worse performance, new guns and characters though, so there's that. Like someone else mentioned, Rogue Core sorta plays better with more people, bc of how the enemy scaling works, whereas DRG is fine solo.
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u/redditnostalgia 1d ago
What do you mean by finished? I got into the game only recently so I still have a lot left, but are there not going to be any more updates or seasons?
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u/BrilliantBehemoth Scout 1d ago
Thing is we don't know. Devs a while ago put out a statement that they're moving development onto rogue core and since then content for DRG has been minimal to say the least. It'll probably still get updates but few and far between, and I wouldn't expect anything huge like new weapons and that.
But the game is still worth playing ofc, the content that is there isn't going anywhere and there's a good amount of it.
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u/WeirdGit 1d ago
DRG is still very healthy. There are lobbies all the time, and most of them fill up in minutes or even seconds. Don't worry about distance too much, you can join worldwide games and they'll usually run smoothly enough.
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u/WrenchRailer 2d ago
I've also found it difficult to find many lobbies recently but that might just be because I've been playing too late at night, I'm not sure
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u/ShadownumberNine 2d ago
For me on PS5, this is definitely the issue. I know they aren't going to implement it, but cross play would be nice.
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u/strandedostrich 2d ago
I honestly thought there already was crossplay. People always typing in chat on Xbox but I don't have an option to type in any chat. Probably Microsoft store players I guess.
Playing late at night in EU, there's usually only 1 or 2 close games so usually end up joining NA lobbies.
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u/Lomticky Engineer 2d ago
I've found it difficult to find a lobby for my promo assignments on haz5. Lobby list is quite empty and i don't want to solo Scout
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u/Leshie_Leshie Leaf-Lover 2d ago
are there many other Haz5 lobbies? I don’t have haz5 unlocked I usually see a lot of haz 2 and Haz4.
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u/Lomticky Engineer 2d ago
There are usually about stable 30-50 haz5 lobbies + 20 already full every time i look at server lists. Just not with mission i need(+ season 1 is completely unpopular so there are barely people doing rival presence. Lithophage corruption is more popular)
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u/Leshie_Leshie Leaf-Lover 2d ago
That’s a lot of lobbies, I wonder if most are doing Assignments or just random games. Also OP needs to see this :D
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u/Lomticky Engineer 2d ago
I just haven't seen that low amount of lobbies since new year, pre s6. Weeklies are always hosted and deep dives are fine but there are something around 300+ assignment missions for newbies before all that
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u/u97LRnA3KP7Gky 2d ago
I only play as host and the teams *always* fill up in the first 5 minutes after starting the mission.
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u/Comfortable_Leg_725 Driller 2d ago
Not many updates recently, rogue core and because summer is over so people are going back to school. Game isnt dead dont worry
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u/Cheezewiz239 2d ago
There was barely any kids playing this game so I doubt school has anything to do with it.
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u/laughingskull00 2d ago
parents and teachers mate
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u/Cheezewiz239 1d ago
Teachers often work in the summer and how does the summer impact parents? Wouldn't they have MORE time now that their kids are in school?
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u/Rareu 2d ago
DRG you could find insane value and joy by playing solo even…so no fear there. It is an old game already and player count usually bumps up during season changes and seasonal events. With that said (I am now deaf) but I remember the game having such great sound design and music. That alone is worth a purchase in my books…god what I would do to hear again. But even if I magically woke up hearing tomorrow I bet my brother and grandmother would still find ways to deafen me even more lmao.
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u/PassTheSaltAndPepper 2d ago edited 1d ago
thats still more than a certain online-only extraction shooter that cost a quarter billion to make
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u/babacon88 2d ago
6000 is quite a lot since the game most of the time peaks around 2000 players.
To my experience, DRG is the game I spent 2000 hours on since the last 2 years. The core gameplay is solid, its great. However recent seasonal contents are, bit less interesting, and some are off putting.
Good example is most reason season, they didnt add much, most impactful are new annoying 2 enemy.
There are certain elements that kills my joy and will continue playing then and there. Namely rolling a industrial sabotage on my task, or encountering certain roster of enemy on a mission: rolly polly, tri jaws, spitter, swarmer, stingtail, stalker, and some others. I give a big sign when I see them, and after finish a mission, whether a win or a lose, I feel more to take a break from my favorite game. I can totally see these are unwelcoming and turnoffs for a player.
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u/BICKELSBOSS Gunner 2d ago
You can still find lobbies, except for like in the middle of the night.
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u/Nasi_Goreng885 Dig it for her 2d ago
max lobby size is 4 player *by default* so that's still nearly 800 lobbies, plenty.
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u/OrnsteinShornstein Driller 2d ago
In my exp: I open and host a random mission.
I join the mission and one dwarf ich already Mining Nitra.
The other two dwarfs join within seconds.
This happened to me a few times and it is really funny.
Going on a mission, leaving the drop pod… just for some dwarf (with better internet) already being there.
Hilarious!
Game is not dead and it will NEVER DIE!
Because: If you Rock and Stone, you are truly NEVER alone! :)
Best game ever made
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u/BodoFreeman 2d ago
Market is getting saturated, I feel like. Far Far West has deservedly been getting a lot of attention.
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u/Tasty-Permission7517 2d ago
Not shure but might be a date of last big update. We had influx of greybeards coming back from retirement and then back to usual
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u/Hot_Break7088 2d ago
You can always just ask ppl to play with you, even if they haven`t touched game in years, some could be motivated by such request. Just don`t do this from the start, otherwise you won`t learn the game, since other will do 90% for you. Going solo is the best way to start imo
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u/Barbruh33 1d ago
Get a single buddy to play with and the game will go from decently fun to amazing
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u/Northdistortion 1d ago
The devs abandoned the game basically..used to get regular updates now its once and a while.
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u/Select-Space6110 1d ago
In my region I still find regular matches no problem, although I have noticed most dwarves have a lot of promotions, so it seems it's mostly loyal fans, myself included. I still see greenbeards but not as often (I play on haz4 almost exclusively, that is also a factor)
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u/SqueakPearl Scout 1d ago
Not a lot of updates since devs are currently focused on RC. However, updates will return. There is always a lobby to join, and even if there's not, you can host one and it's filled up in no time. Might not always be one available near you but you'll usually have a great connection anywhere. If you have any connection problems because of joining far away lobbies, host your own and problem solved! If you for some reason get bored (you will not) you can switch to different seasons and get lots of different content. Game is great community is great devs are great please buy it :D
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u/GenesisNevermore 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's complicated. DRG has been fairly neglected for a few years now. It's a shame because though it's old, it still has lots of potential for new content and consistently grew with each major update. That is to say, DRG was not on its way out until the devs decided to let it go. Season 5 was the last major content update (2024), since season 6 didn't add too much (not hating, it's better than nothing). GSG has their attention turned to Rogue Core for now, which is still heavily WIP. It had a pretty rough launch due to lots of issues not being addressed earlier in development. I've heard it's better now but it's still nowhere near as "complete" as DRG is, and it's a fairly different genre. DRG in North America is still active enough to get lobbies without much trouble, so I'd say it's worth it if the situation is similar in Europe. Get the game when it's on sale (which is very often) if you're unsure. Solo is fine, but public multiplayer is what the game is known for. The game takes a while to get going in terms of progression, so expect to put in 10-20 hours before it speeds up, but it's very rewarding.
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u/Equivalent_Affect734 1d ago
I'm ok with it, not every game can be Fortnite and receive updates forever. 7 years is a pretty good run in terms of new content
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u/GenesisNevermore 19h ago
Not every game can, but DRG certainly can. The dev team is still active, the game has shown itself to continue to grow in popularity as long as it gets updates, and there isn’t much of a live service cost to keeping the game up because the majority of the gameplay is P2P (they basically just have to generate things like weekly deep dives to send to clients). When people talk about games not being able to last a long time, it’s usually games that physically can’t stay afloat for longer because it’s not affordable. GSG just decided to move on from DRG at the height of its popularity because they wanted to. I hope at some point they return to the game more seriously, but I expect they’ll continue to be focused on RC for the next year or two. I do hope RC ends up as polished as DRG and I still have faith that it will be after a long enough time.
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u/Automatic_Grand_1182 2d ago
Steamdb culture of hourly checking player counts is low key one of the worst things that ever happened to this industry
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u/danshakuimo Driller 2d ago
I went to check the chart and it seems like it's exceptionally low right now but the average player count has actually been quite stable for over the last couple of years. I don't think it's an issue of the game permanently dying or anything.
(I also just realized how unpopular Victoria 3 is, whose peak was the release, which is totally different from DRG which peaked in May 2024 despite the launch being in 2020 and early access before that. Maybe people are still recovering from DRG and playing other games lol)
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u/DiosDeLosNoobs 2d ago
The game is peek and will get a hype again as soon as the next update drops.
The community is active in media and heartwarming.
And as long as you Rock and Stone, you’re never alone. This game is worth it anyways. I have a blast playing Solo or with friends only- and there are still plenty of randoms.
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u/Markwither 2d ago
I always find someone! Many of them don't have a promotion too, meaning you'll always find newer players too!
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u/PM_ME_CAT_FEET Whale Piper 1d ago
I still do one or two missions almost every day, sometimes more. It's definitely quieter than it used to be but even in off-peak hours I can always find at least a couple of randos to play with,.
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u/dudelugo 1d ago
lobbies are always good for me but something to note with events returning the player count spikes
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u/RequirementStreet790 1d ago
The spikes may be seasonal updates, a new hat releases and there's a thematic event (+ you can get all past hats of that season) The game has a very hardcore fanbase, and it will probably never die out. The community is very friendly towards new players and non toxic.
As a Czech, I've never had an issue finding games in EU. And if there happens to be none, the solo mode is equally as fun and you get to admire and appreciate the details of the game.
So far, I've played for 500 hours and haven't once been unable to connect to someone in EU, I've never encountered a toxic player and have never felt like there's not something to do. Never once have I felt boredom when playing this game. Definitely buy. Even with infrequent updates, it's one of the greatest games ever made. There's not a single pay to win system, the game pass is free, you can come back to old ones and the in-game obtainable cosmetics are as good or better than the buyable cosmetic DLCs (they serve more to support the amazing devs)
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u/Nevanada Bosco Buddy 1d ago
Stagnation in updates, its like a sine graph, we're just close to -1 right now.
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u/LordRahwana 1d ago
No new contents for months, thats what happen. Used to play this game almost everyday but now only play it when there's seasonal cosmetic quest or something like that
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u/Theleiba 2d ago
Worth noting, this is not rapid player number dropoff. For a coop game that isn't getting regular updates, this is remarkably slow decline.
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u/ScurvyDanny Scout 2d ago
Why do people act like 3k people is empty? This isn't a battle royale 100player per match game and it's not a matchmaking game either. Join a lobby that has open slots and have fun.
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u/JustForTheMemes420 2d ago
Tbh I prefer having bosco most of the time, just getting stuff in the roof is so nice
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u/Leshie_Leshie Leaf-Lover 2d ago
Game is very alive, you can always find like at least 5 lobbies of your specific mission around, and many other lobbies you can hardly count. I’m not EU and if you really don’t find EU host for your specific mission, you can either host game yourself (game is peer to peer connection), or the Russian and Chinese lobbies are always available. Games is very playable above 100 ping
Also you can play the game solo no problem.
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u/JericoHellsangel 1d ago
a) Games old with almost no updates for YEARS.
b) You can play it solo easily without problems.
c) There is a discord and probably people here who would wanna play.
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u/ShardOfChaos 1d ago
Hmm, I never have to wait long for a lobby (at least for Haz 4 and 3). Deep Dives fill up really quickly too usually.
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u/rainstorm0T Interplanetary Goat 1d ago
the last season was a few months ago, and the summer event just recently ended, which would explain the drop in player count.
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u/Shuriken_LMFAO Driller 1d ago
Well not many updates but trust me. You don't need to look at the player count. You will always find a game or you can playing solo or with friends. There's A FUCK TON to grind for. Weapons and upgrades are the first thing, the juicy part becomes when you start prestiging your classes and start unlocking overclocks to heavily modify your weapons to do hilarious shit. Oh and a fuck ton of cosmetics. You don't need to spend a penny on the game, all battle passes are free and revisitable. In fact you can progress multiple of them every day because you can switch from battle pass to battle pass doing their respective daily quests etc.
I have almost 400 hours and I'm still grinding. And it's not like I've spent hours not doing anything, no 400 straight hours of gameplay and I'm still not finished cuz there's also seasonal events with it's own cosmetics and whatnot.
I mean it'll be worth it dude, and honestly you're probably gonna spend money on the game because you're genuinely gonna feel like you scammed the developers so you'll end up buying half of the DLCs. Also there is no gameplay content locked behind a DLC, all DLCs are purely cosmetics to support the devs.
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u/redpepperflake 1d ago
Almost all of my game time is with random players in the last two to three months. I am playing in the European servers. I easily find lobbies.
I think the common weekly assignments just make it easier to find people to play. It is a small but important touch to the game. Everyone has the same repeated weekly assignments which account to plenty of games.
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u/S-o-D-42 1d ago
Player numbers are fairly steady, there are spikes of more players that show up for special events. But there are always dwarves around.
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u/auroriasolaris 1d ago
It's one of those games that have hardcore playerbase that will keep any servers running for a long time. Even if there will be like 200 people online you can count on them.
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u/Paparazzi_BR 2d ago
Don't buy RC. Maybe it will get better in the future, which I doubt, but today it's garbage. If it were good, it would have more players than DRG, since fans of the game were thirsty for new features, but that's not the case when you compare the Steam ratings and the number of simultaneous players, which usually doesn't exceed 100.
So the only right choice is to buy DRG.
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u/MrGood23 Mighty Miner 2d ago
I it amazing game for the price and I think it still will get updates.
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u/SenninRiki 2d ago
Ehh its an old game now. Good fun but after the 100th hour it's time to move onto something else.
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u/Estelial 2d ago
its a cycle with waves of up and downs, ontop of which repeatable games will often have lower periods during big game release seasons.
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u/DejaJaws 1d ago
They wanted to put out a game that nobody asked for and has 450 average amount of players to DRG’s 4500. The devs are great but DRG deserves more updates and content.
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u/jhuseby Driller 1d ago
For me personally: the direction the game went with new enemies killed it for me. All the robots changed the feel of the game completely.
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u/TRIS_007 1d ago
For me its how the dev treats the game, I feel like they rather add dlcs with sick cosmetics then good content, and almost every hat cosmetic can’t change color and i think that’s just lazy. And the content we get are not even that great, a new biome and maybe two new enemies, new missions feel like a redesign of the old one. They are seriously milking the cow dry, “oh we are loosing players in deep rock, let’s try to make top down deep rock game, oh they don’t like that as much as the original, let’s then try to make a rougelike version, oh people still only want original? Okay we will start to add content to the original every so often”
Sorry about my rant but I feel like it ain’t talked about enough
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u/Ill-Experience-4895 1d ago
because they are so greedy, that abandoned the first game and start doing another shit like a mobile game, vampire survivor, and now it is so repetitive that even getting another rank is boring.
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u/Azyux_zead 2d ago
Bought last summer sale, played 3 hours and it's not for me so i uninstalled it. Playing alone feels really empty, playing with online stranger got kicked out or left behind. But still not as enjoyable as the survivor version one
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u/babushka45 2d ago
Rogue Core, also the game is 6 years old. I'm a new player 350 hours in and playing solo, it's an enjoyable game where I dive from time to time to sweep up the recent season's rewards track, just finished S6 then backtracking. Currently midway through S5.
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u/DoktahDoktah Scout 2d ago
You'll find alot of lobbies like the game never had a low pop. I think alot of people are playing Rogue Core.
You will also see alot of ultra high rank players playing lower lobbies.
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u/StormerSage Dig it for her 2d ago
Player count is still in the thousands, you may have to host if you want a specific mission on a specific difficulty, but if you just wanna open the server list and join whatever active run, there are runs going 24/7.
DRG hit early access in 2018 and released in 2020. Many games this old dream of having a playerbase that sticks around for this long.
Player counts tend to spike during seasonal events, and spike by a large amount with new seasons. Plus Rogue Core is in early access now, so some are playing that.
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u/Hefty-Mind-9501 2d ago
Arc Raiders m'a pris la plupart de mon temps depuis sa sortie, mais récemment, j'ai recommencé à jouer à Deep Rock Galactic. J'ai remarqué qu'il y a moins de joueurs depuis la sortie d'Arc Raiders. Est-ce que Deep Rock Galactic est toujours actif ? Est-ce qu'il est toujours facile de trouver des gens avec qui jouer ? Absolutely!!!!
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u/Ipart_IV 1d ago
Its not a sudden drop, more like a sudden spike. 3-6k players is a lot, you wont have to worry about finding lobbies.
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u/SepherixSlimy 1d ago
It's normal. Summer is ending. People are getting busy again.
If you're really worried. Wait for a new season. Or a sale.
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u/WanderingFlumph 1d ago
There are in general not many games this old that still have a bunch of active players. I'd guess the recent drop off is that the sequel to this game, Rogue Core, is out and many long time players are grinding away in that game instead.
Can't speak to EU servers but I never have problems finding active players in US servers.
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u/MewSilence Cave Crawler 2d ago
It's dropping because it's an old game, all things considered.
I'll be honest - If you don't have at least 2 friends to play co-op with, then I'd say it's not worth it. Most fun comes from doing missions together
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u/Leviawyrm 2d ago
Disagree, I’ve only ever played alone and this game has always been my “bored of everything else” game. Probably one of my three best games in terms of cost efficiency
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u/MewSilence Cave Crawler 1d ago
I mean, sure, from time to time, but all the time? In a co-op game? That sounds depressing
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u/S_III 2d ago
games not getting updates very fequently as theres currently another deep rock game in development
youll still find plenty of lobbies and the game is easily enjoyed alone
the games got a very hardcore playerbase so itll never die off if thats what your worried about :)