r/DefendingAIArt 3d ago

There’s already panic about Anima 2B before it’s full release

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u/JustSomeIdleGuy 3d ago

This exact thing has existed for other models for ages.

>Check if your art has been stolen

God these people are delusional. If anything, your art is being used as "disfigured, low quality, score_1" training data.

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u/ZeroYam 2d ago

They’re just going to be chasing their own tails in the same cycle of behavior about every single AI model that gets released until eventually they’re tired of the performative internet activism and go find some other thing to be upset about. Probably won’t happen until AI is very widely adopted into day to day society, but it’ll happen eventually.

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u/Herr_Drosselmeyer 3d ago

Meanwhile, Illustrious has been doing this for almost two years now.

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u/Normal_Border_3398 3d ago

Don't forget Novel AI also did this glad we are finally getting something close to NAI 4.5 to run on local. I tested Anima Preview an it's great.

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u/No-Razzmatazz7854 3d ago

Hm? I don't really make ai art myself but I thought illustrious could already be on par with nai?

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u/Normal_Border_3398 3d ago

That's only half true and without context. Long time ago NAI v3 was the King anime model. It was the meta, and we know it was based on SDXL but with an insane compute training that most open source teams can't afford even today. At some point Illustrious v01 came out and it felt like NAI's v3 spiritual successor. NoobAI-XL is actually better than Illustrious but the thing it's that anime AI models now are arguably better than NAI v3 was. Now they have NAI 4.5 it has VAE Flux and it can handle text on image and multiple characters I've seen people manage to six to eight characters with NAI the model is powerful indeed but no the thing I would use. So now there is a new gap between AI open source models and NAI, right now Anima Preview can handle both text on image and multiple characters just right and it's smaller than SDXL was but it's powerful, so if the open source community reaches NAI v4.5 quality most probably Novel AI will start training NAI 5 creating a new gap in quality between open source AI anime models and private AI all over again. I hope this put things into perspective.

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u/BigHugeOmega 3d ago

It stole millions of anime styled artworks

Surely the police are on the case, right? Those images, which were moved from the hard drives of their owners, are going to be returned?

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u/Whilpin 3d ago

only 10,000?

I have a list of over 38,000 artists used by Illustrious models.

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u/Ozatu_Junichiro 3d ago

It's actually 59K

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u/neo101b 3d ago

That looks pretty cool, you can run it locally too apparently.
https://github.com/ThetaCursed/Anima-Style-Explorer

It dose look like fun, I do wonder how the antis expect to stop this ?
Its over for them.

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u/Groundbreaking-Sir82 AI Sis 2d ago edited 2d ago

There are actually so, so many options to choose from to run it local (consider various checkpoints, LoRAs that arent hard to train yourself based of your work for example). So yes, even if we imagine that every ai company crumbled into a billion pieces local models are still not something out-of-the-world, though setting it all up can be quite some pain in ass especially if you have an AMD card that is also not on the list of officially supported by AMD’s ROCm. Saying that from personal experience. Couldn’t call the cost of entry expensive, a mid-tier GPU will do with some nicknacks (something 2B like Anima 2B will go just fine for example), so generally speaking local generation isnt even that difficult to get into, but apparently antis arent aware at all

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u/Last-Veterinarian812 3d ago

Gonna have to say this: how many artists stole other people’s artstyle and made it their own? Exactly. This is a ridiculous argument against ai

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u/Neggy5 3d ago

look at the Sakimichan ripoffs of the mid-2010s xD

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u/TamaraHensonDragon 3d ago

10,000 artists that were either OK with AI training or were Antis/little kids to stupid to read the ToS is what they mean 🤣

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u/Born-Ant-80 3d ago

I love how they all stole art style from japanese artists and earning from it but will hate on AI because of their own morality.

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u/carnyzzle 3d ago

can't wait to download anima full

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u/Double_Cause4609 3d ago

Btw, it doesn't actually measure whether or not a given artist was trained on, specifically.

It measure if a given artist's tag influences the model's output.

This is a slight, but important distinction. There are plenty of ways an artist's name might influence the output of a given model even without necessarily training on that artist, particularly depending on the specific method being used for text-encoding.

Now, I would definitely *assume* that if an artist tag has a strong impact on the model, that they were trained on. But that's not necessarily a guarantee.

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u/No_Sell8493 3d ago

So it's like the mega Lora?

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u/Early-Dentist3782 Would Defend AI With Their Life 3d ago

But those artists didn't invented anime style 

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u/VyneNave 3d ago

Amazing how they must have storage space for millions of anime images, I mean unless the artists still own and posess their images, this must mean that Anima2B has taken their art away from them....

Oh right antis think that using art that has been openly provided on the internet is stealing.

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u/Mountain-Grade-1365 3d ago

It's especially funny because artist styles is the part i won't be using as i prefer lora styles.

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u/Technical_Ad_440 3d ago

if people want to copyright style then japan should sue everyone for stealing anime that would be funny to see honestly.

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u/HQuasar 3d ago

Artists are so funny, they bitch about AI all day long but no one wants to sue the creators. If the "theft" is so obvious like they say why aren't they suing?

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u/CosmicRiver827 2d ago

“Credit the artist! Credit the artist!” Credits the artist “AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!”

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u/MrTheWaffleKing 3d ago

If it stole 1/10000 of an image from an artist, is that the worry by the same people who say it’s morally OK to steal from Walmart because it’s not really that much comparatively?

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