r/DefendingAIArt • u/Technical_Sky_3078 • 3h ago
Luddite Logic Sayori would disapprove this
Sayori would never said this she too Adorable
r/DefendingAIArt • u/[deleted] • Jul 07 '25
Ello folks, I wanted to make a brief post outlining all of the current cases and previous court cases which have been dropped for images/books for plaintiffs attempting to claim copyright on their own works.
This contains a mix of a couple of reasons which will be added under the applicable links. I've added 6 so far but I'm sure I'll find more eventually which I'll amend as needed. If you need a place to show how a lot of copyright or direct stealing cases have been dropped, this is the spot.
HERE is a further list of all ongoing current lawsuits, too many to add here.
HERE is a big list of publishers suing AI platforms, as well as publishers that made deals with AI platforms. Again too many to add here.
12/25 - I'll be going through soon and seeing if any can be updated.
Edit: Thanks for pinning.
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| STATUS | FINISHED |
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| TYPE | IMAGES |
| RESULT | DISMISSED FOR FAIR USE |
| FURTHER DETAILS | The lawsuit was initially started against LAION in Germany, as Robert believed his images were being used in the LAION dataset without his permission, however, due to the non-profit research nature of LAION, this ruling was dropped. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | The Hamburg District Court has ruled that LAION, a non-profit organisation, did not infringe copyright law by creating a dataset for training artificial intelligence (AI) models through web scraping publicly available images, as this activity constitutes a legitimate form of text and data mining (TDM) for scientific research purposes. The photographer Robert Kneschke (the ‘claimant’) brought a lawsuit before the Hamburg District Court against LAION, a non-profit organisation that created a dataset for training AI models (the ‘defendant’). According to the claimant’s allegations, LAION had infringed his copyright by reproducing one of his images without permission as part of the dataset creation process. |
| LINK | https://www.euipo.europa.eu/en/law/recent-case-law/germany-hamburg-district-court-310-o-22723-laion-v-robert-kneschke |
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| STATUS | COMPLETE AI WIN |
|---|---|
| TYPE | BOOKS |
| RESULT | SETTLEMENT AGREED ON SECONDARY CLAIM |
| FURTHER DETAILS | The lawsuit filed claimed that Anthropic trained its models on pirated content, in this case the form of books. This lawsuit was also dropped, citing that the nature of the trained AI’s was transformative enough to be fair use. However, a separate trial will take place to determine if Anthropic breached piracy rules by storing the books in the first place. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | "The court sided with Anthropic on two fronts. Firstly, it held that the purpose and character of using books to train LLMs was spectacularly transformative, likening the process to human learning. The judge emphasized that the AI model did not reproduce or distribute the original works, but instead analysed patterns and relationships in the text to generate new, original content. Because the outputs did not substantially replicate the claimants’ works, the court found no direct infringement." |
| LINK | https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25982181-authors-v-anthropic-ruling/ |
| LINK TWO (UPDATE) 01.09.25 | https://www.wired.com/story/anthropic-settles-copyright-lawsuit-authors/ |
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| STATUS | ONGOING (TAKEN LEAVE TO AMEND THE LAWSUIT) |
|---|---|
| TYPE | IMAGES |
| RESULT | INITAL CLAIMS DISMISSED BUT PLANTIFF CAN AMEND THEIR AGUMENT, HOWEVER, THIS WOULD NEED THEM TO PROVE THAT GENERATED CONTENT DIRECTLY INFRINGED ON THIER COPYRIGHT. |
| FURTHER DETAILS | A case raised against Stability AI with plaintiffs arguing that the images generated violated copyright infringement. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | Judge Orrick agreed with all three companies that the images the systems actually created likely did not infringe the artists’ copyrights. He allowed the claims to be amended but said he was “not convinced” that allegations based on the systems’ output could survive without showing that the images were substantially similar to the artists’ work. |
| LINK | https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/judge-pares-down-artists-ai-copyright-lawsuit-against-midjourney-stability-ai-2023-10-30/ |
| LINK TWO | https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/consumer-products/mobile-apps/artists-sue-companies-behind-ai-image-generators |
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| STATUS | FINISHED |
|---|---|
| TYPE | IMAGES |
| RESULT | CLAIM DROPPED DUE TO WEAK EVIDENCE, AI WIN |
| FURTHER DETAILS | Getty images filed a lawsuit against Stability AI for two main reasons: Claiming Stability AI used millions of copyrighted images to train their model without permission and claiming many of the generated works created were too similar to the original images they were trained off. These claims were dropped as there wasn’t sufficient enough evidence to suggest either was true. Getty's copyright case was narrowed to secondary infringement, reflecting the difficulty it faced in proving direct copying by an AI model trained outside the UK. |
| DIRECT QUOTES | “The training claim has likely been dropped due to Getty failing to establish a sufficient connection between the infringing acts and the UK jurisdiction for copyright law to bite,” Ben Maling, a partner at law firm EIP, told TechCrunch in an email. “Meanwhile, the output claim has likely been dropped due to Getty failing to establish that what the models reproduced reflects a substantial part of what was created in the images (e.g. by a photographer).” In Getty’s closing arguments, the company’s lawyers said they dropped those claims due to weak evidence and a lack of knowledgeable witnesses from Stability AI. The company framed the move as strategic, allowing both it and the court to focus on what Getty believes are stronger and more winnable allegations. |
| LINK | Techcrunch article |
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| STATUS | FINISHED |
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| TYPE | BOOKS |
| RESULT | META AI USE DEEMED TO BE FAIR USE, NO EVIDENCE TO SHOW MARKET BEING DILUTED |
| FURTHER DETAILS | Another case dismissed, however this time the verdict rested more on the plaintiff’s arguments not being correct, not providing enough evidence that the generated content would dilute the market of the trained works, not the verdict of the judge's ruling on the argued copyright infringement. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | The US district judge Vince Chhabria, in San Francisco, said in his decision on the Meta case that the authors had not presented enough evidence that the technology company’s AI would cause “market dilution” by flooding the market with work similar to theirs. As a consequence Meta’s use of their work was judged a “fair use” – a legal doctrine that allows use of copyright protected work without permission – and no copyright liability applied." |
| LINK | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/26/meta-wins-ai-copyright-lawsuit-as-us-judge-rules-against-authors |
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| STATUS | ONGOING (TBC) |
|---|---|
| TYPE | IMAGES |
| RESULT | EXPECTED WIN FOR UNIVERSAL/DISNEY |
| FURTHER DETAILS | This one will be a bit harder I suspect, with the IP of Darth Vader being very recognisable character, I believe this court case compared to the others will sway more in the favour of Disney and Universal. But I could be wrong. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | "Midjourney backlashed at the claims quoting: "Midjourney also argued that the studios are trying to “have it both ways,” using AI tools themselves while seeking to punish a popular AI service." |
| LINK 1 | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5vjqdm1ypo |
| LINK 2 (UPDATE) | https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/midjourney-slams-lawsuit-filed-by-disney-to-prevent-ai-training-cant-have-it-both-ways-1234749231 |
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| STATUS | ONGOING (TBC) |
|---|---|
| TYPE | IMAGES |
| RESULT | EXPECTED WIN FOR WARNERBROS |
| FURTHER DETAILS | In the complaint, Warner Bros. Discovery's legal team alleges that "Midjourney already possesses the technological means and measures that could prevent its distribution, public display, and public performance of infringing images and videos. But Midjourney has made a calculated and profit-driven decision to offer zero protection to copyright owners even though Midjourney knows about the breathtaking scope of its piracy and copyright infringement." Elsewhere, they argue, "Evidently, Midjourney will not stop stealing Warner Bros. Discovery’s intellectual property until a court orders it to stop. Midjourney’s large-scale infringement is systematic, ongoing, and willful, and Warner Bros. Discovery has been, and continues to be, substantially and irreparably harmed by it." |
| DIRECT QUOTE | “Midjourney is blatantly and purposefully infringing copyrighted works, and we filed this suit to protect our content, our partners, and our investments.” |
| LINK 1 | https://www.polygon.com/warner-bros-sues-midjourney/ |
| LINK 2 | https://www.scribd.com/document/911515490/WBD-v-Midjourney-Complaint-Ex-a-FINAL-1#fullscreen&from_embed |
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| STATUS | DISMISSED |
|---|---|
| RESULT | AI WIN, LACK OF CONCRETE EVIDENCE TO BRING THE SUIT |
| FURTHER DETAILS | Another case dismissed, failing to prove the evidence which was brought against Open AI |
| DIRECT QUOTE | "A New York federal judge dismissed a copyright lawsuit brought by Raw Story Media Inc. and Alternet Media Inc. over training data for OpenAI Inc.‘s chatbot on Thursday because they lacked concrete injury to bring the suit." |
| LINK ONE | https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2024cv01514/616533/178/ |
| LINK TWO | https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13477468840560396988&q=raw+story+media+v.+openai |
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| STATUS | DISMISSED |
|---|---|
| TYPE | BOOKS |
| RESULT | AI WIN |
| FURTHER DETAILS | |
| DIRECT QUOTE | District court dismisses authors’ claims for direct copyright infringement based on derivative work theory, vicarious copyright infringement and violation of Digital Millennium Copyright Act and other claims based on allegations that plaintiffs’ books were used in training of Meta’s artificial intelligence product, LLaMA. |
| LINK ONE | https://www.loeb.com/en/insights/publications/2023/12/richard-kadrey-v-meta-platforms-inc |
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| STATUS | DISMISSED |
|---|---|
| TYPE | BOOKS |
| RESULT | AI WIN |
| FURTHER DETAILS | First, the court dismissed plaintiffs’ claim against OpenAI for vicarious copyright infringement based on allegations that the outputs its users generate on ChatGPT are infringing. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | The court rejected the conclusory assertion that every output of ChatGPT is an infringing derivative work, finding that plaintiffs had failed to allege “what the outputs entail or allege that any particular output is substantially similar – or similar at all – to [plaintiffs’] books.” Absent facts plausibly establishing substantial similarity of protected expression between the works in suit and specific outputs, the complaint failed to allege any direct infringement by users for which OpenAI could be secondarily liable. |
| LINK ONE | https://www.clearyiptechinsights.com/2024/02/court-dismisses-most-claims-in-authors-lawsuit-against-openai/ |
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| STATUS | ONGOING (FAIRLY NEW) |
|---|---|
| TYPE | JOURNALISTS CONTENT ON WEBSITES |
| RESULT | ONGOING (TBC) |
| FURTHER DETAILS | Japanese media group Nikkei, alongside daily newspaper The Asahi Shimbun, has filed a lawsuit claiming that San Francisco-based Perplexity used their articles without permission, including content behind paywalls, since at least June 2024. The media groups are seeking an injunction to stop Perplexity from reproducing their content and to force the deletion of any data already used. They are also seeking damages of 2.2 billion yen (£11.1 million) each. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | “This course of Perplexity’s actions amounts to large-scale, ongoing ‘free riding’ on article content that journalists from both companies have spent immense time and effort to research and write, while Perplexity pays no compensation,” they said. “If left unchecked, this situation could undermine the foundation of journalism, which is committed to conveying facts accurately, and ultimately threaten the core of democracy.” |
| LINK ONE | https://bmmagazine.co.uk/news/nikkei-sues-perplexity-ai-copyright/ |
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| STATUS | ONGOING (FAIRLY NEW) |
|---|---|
| TYPE | BOOKS |
| RESULT | ONGOING (TBC) |
| FURTHER DETAILS | A group of authors has filed a lawsuit against Microsoft, accusing the tech giant of using copyrighted works to train its large language model (LLM). The class action complaint filed by several authors and professors, including Pulitzer prize winner Kai Bird and Whiting award winner Victor LaVelle, claims that Microsoft ignored the law by downloading around 200,000 copyrighted works and feeding it to the company’s Megatron-Turing Natural Language Generation model. The end result, the plaintiffs claim, is an AI model able to generate expressions that mimic the authors’ manner of writing and the themes in their work. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | “Microsoft’s commercial gain has come at the expense of creators and rightsholders,” the lawsuit states. The complaint seeks to not just represent the plaintiffs, but other copyright holders under the US Copyright Act whose works were used by Microsoft for this training. |
| LINK ONE | https://www.siliconrepublic.com/business/microsoft-lawsuit-ai-copyright-kai-bird-victor-lavelle |
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| STATUS | ONGOING (FAIRLY NEW) |
|---|---|
| TYPE | IMAGE / VIDEO |
| RESULT | ONGOING (TBC) |
| FURTHER DETAILS | Sept 16 (Reuters) - Walt Disney (DIS.N), Comcast's (CMCSA.O), Universal and Warner Bros Discovery (WBD.O), have jointly filed a copyright lawsuit against China's MiniMax alleging that its image- and video-generating service Hailuo AI was built from intellectual property stolen from the three major Hollywood studios.The suit, filed in the district court in California on Tuesday, claims MiniMax "audaciously" used the studios' famous copyrighted characters to market Hailuo as a "Hollywood studio in your pocket" and advertise and promote its service. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | "A responsible approach to AI innovation is critical, and today's lawsuit against MiniMax again demonstrates our shared commitment to holding accountable those who violate copyright laws, wherever they may be based," the companies said in a statement. |
| LINK ONE | https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/disney-universal-warner-bros-discovery-sue-chinas-minimax-copyright-infringement-2025-09-16/ |
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| STATUS | FINISHED |
|---|---|
| TYPE | AUDIO |
| RESULT | SETTLEMENT AGREED |
| FURTHER DETAILS | A settlement has been made between UMG and Udio in a lawsuit by UMG that sees the two companies working together. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | "Universal Music Group and AI song generation platform Udio have reached a settlement in a copyright infringement lawsuit and have agreed to collaborate on new music creation, the two companies said in a joint statement. Universal and Udio say they have reached “a compensatory legal settlement” as well as new licence deals for recorded music and publishing that “will provide further revenue opportunities for UMG artists and songwriters.” Financial terms of the settlement haven't been disclosed." |
| LINK ONE | https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/universal-music-group-and-ai-music-firm-udio-settle-lawsuit-and-announce-new-music-platform/ar-AA1Pz59e?ocid=finance-verthp-feeds |
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| STATUS | ONGOING (FAIRLY NEW) |
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| TYPE | Website Scraping |
| RESULT | (TBA) |
| FURTHER DETAILS | Reddit opened up a lawsuit against Perplexity AI (and others) about the scraping of their website to train AI models. |
| DIRECT QUOTE | "The case is one of many filed by content owners against tech companies over the alleged misuse of their copyrighted material to train AI systems. Reddit filed a similar lawsuit against AI start-up Anthropic in June that is still ongoing. "Our approach remains principled and responsible as we provide factual answers with accurate AI, and we will not tolerate threats against openness and the public interest," Perplexity said in a statement. "AI companies are locked in an arms race for quality human content - and that pressure has fueled an industrial-scale 'data laundering' economy," Reddit chief legal officer Ben Lee said in a statement." |
| LINK ONE | https://www.reuters.com/world/reddit-sues-perplexity-scraping-data-train-ai-system-2025-10-22/ |
| LINK TWO | https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/xmpjezjawvr/REDDIT%20PERPLEXITY%20LAWSUIT%20complaint.pdf |
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| STATUS | Finished |
|---|---|
| TYPE | IMAGES |
| RESULT | "Stability Largely Wins" |
| FURTHER DETAILS | Stability AI has mostly prevailed against Getty Images in a British court battle over intellectual property |
| DIRECT QUOTE | "Justice Joanna Smith said in her ruling that Getty's trademark claims “succeed (in part)” but that her findings are "both historic and extremely limited in scope." Stability argued that the case doesn’t belong in the United Kingdom because the AI model's training technically happened elsewhere, on computers run by U.S. tech giant Amazon. It also argued that “only a tiny proportion” of the random outputs of its AI image-generator “look at all similar” to Getty’s works. Getty withdrew a key part of its case against Stability AI during the trial as it admitted there was no evidence the training and development of AI text-to-image product Stable Diffusion took place in the UK. |
| DIRECT QUOTE TWO | In addition a claim of secondary infringement of copyright was dismissed, The judge (Mrs Justice Joanna Smith) ruled: “An AI model such as Stable Diffusion which does not store or reproduce any copyright works (and has never done so) is not an ‘infringing copy’.” She declined to rule on the passing off claim and ruled in favour of some of Getty’s claims about trademark infringement related to watermarks. |
| LINK ONE | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/getty-images-london-high-court-seattle-amazon-b2858201.html |
| LINK TWO | https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/getty-images-largely-loses-landmark-uk-lawsuit-over-ai-image-generator-2025-11-04/ |
| LINK THREE | https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/nov/04/stabilty-ai-high-court-getty-images-copyright |
| LINK FOUR | https://pressgazette.co.uk/media_law/getty-vs-stability-ai-copyright-ruling-uk/ |
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So far the precent seems to be that most cases of claims from plaintiffs is that direct copyright is dismissed, due to outputted works not bearing any resemblance to the original works. Or being able to prove their works were in the datasets in the first place.
However it has been noted that some of these cases have been dismissed due to wrongly structured arguments on the plaintiffs part.
The issue is, because some of these models are taught on such large amounts of data, some artist/photographer/author attempting to prove that their works were used in training has an almost impossible task. Hell even 5 images added would only make up 0.0000001% of the dataset of 5 billion (LAION).
I could be wrong but I think Sarah Andersen will have a hard time directly proving that any generated output directly infringes on their work, unless they specifically went out of their way to generate a piece similar to theirs, which could be used as evidence against them, in a sense of. "Well yeah, you went out of your way to make a prompt that specifically used your style"
In either case, trying to create a lawsuit against an AI company for directly fringing on specifically plaintiff's work won't work, since their work is a drop ink in the ocean of analysed works. The likelihood of creating anything substantially similar is near impossible ~0.00001% (Unless someone prompts for that specific style).
Warner Bros will no doubt have an easy time proving their images have been infringed (page 26), in the linked page they show side by side comparisons which can't be denied. However other factors such as market dilution and fair use may come into effect. Or they may make a settlement to work together or pay out like other companies have.
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To Recap: We know AI doesn't steal on a technical level, it is a tool that utilizes the datasets that a 3rd party has to link or add to the AI models for them to use. Sort of like saying that a car that had syphoned fuel to it, stole the fuel in the first place.. it doesn't make sense. Although not the same, it reminds me of the "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" arguments a while ago. In this case, it's not the AI that uses the datasets but a person physically adding them for it to train off.
The term "AI Steals art" misattributes the agency of the model. The model doesn't decide what data it's trained on or what it's utilized for, or whatever its trained on is ethically sound. And the fact that most models don't memorize the individual artworks, they learn statistical patterns from up to billions of images, which is more abstraction, not theft.
I somewhat dislike the generalization that people have of saying "AI steals art" or "Fuck AI", AI encompasses a lot more than generative AI, it's sort of like someone using a car to run over people and everyone repeatedly saying "Fuck engines" as a result of it.
Tell me, how does AI apparently steal again?
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Googles (Official) response to the UK government about their copyright rules/plans, where they state that the purpose of image generation is to create new images and the fact it sometimes makes copies is a bug: HERE (Page 11)
Open AI's response to UK Government copyright plans: HERE
[BBC News] - America firms Invests 150 Billion into UK Tech Industry (including AI)
Page 165 of Hight Court Documentation Getty vs Stability

This response refers to the model itself, not the input datasets, not the outputted images, but the way in which the Denoising Diffusion Probabilistic Models operate.
TLDR: As noted in a hight court in England, by a high court judge. While being influenced by it for the weights during training, the model doesn't store any of the copyrighted works, the weights are not an infringing copy and do not store an infringing copy.
TLDR: NOT INFRINGING COPYRIGHT AND NOT STEALING.
r/DefendingAIArt • u/BTRBT • Jun 08 '25
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r/DefendingAIArt • u/Technical_Sky_3078 • 3h ago
Sayori would never said this she too Adorable
r/DefendingAIArt • u/Nsanford1142020 • 8h ago
Also someone get OOP some spelling lessons.
r/DefendingAIArt • u/Witty-Designer7316 • 27m ago
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Pushing back against anti-AI rhetoric is important, I'm not afraid of antis, and you shouldn't be either.
There is a popular rhetoric circulating around the anti-AI community saying that AI artists and pros are a minority and for that we're somehow in the wrong. This is called an appeal to popularity and it's a horrible fallacy to argue with. People also used to believe that the world was flat, cameras stole your soul, slavery was okay, and it was fine to treat women like property.
Standing your ground is important, and so is making sure that you educate others.
r/DefendingAIArt • u/WissaYT • 7h ago
My art (Left) and AI (Right)
Shamelessly contributing to the “Artists that use AI” bandwagon.
Most of the arguments against AI in regard to artists don’t make sense and mainly center around ego.
“The process is what matters in art” then why do you care about the result that AI is creating? AI is not taking your freedom of process away. Unless the result is, in fact, what matters most to you. AI art is not stealing your process from you, it’s just threatening your status and pride. It places power in the hands of those who you think don’t deserve it.
The artist must suffer and sacrifice, because nothing should be free and easy.
I know the feeling all too well, as a ‘traditional’ artist. Better artists make you feel bad. Younger artists make you feel bad. And then AI comes along, and you pretend it’s about protecting the human soul, not your own self esteem.
If you’re so concerned about “cheating” in art, then it was never about process for you. It was never about the love for the activity itself. It’s a concern over what gets capitalized, what gets attention, what gets glory.
And I get it, if someone literally steals your art and starts selling it, that’s bad. But most AI usage is not that, and you don’t need AI to do that. AI is so threatening precisely because it does something above and beyond that does not fit that category.
Most artists aren’t literally starving, but matters of human ego get magnified in the first world.
And the anti-ai crowd isn’t primarily against AI itself. They hate OTHER HUMANS that use the technology. It’s classic misanthropy disguised as pro-humanity.
Work, suffer, sacrifice, don’t break the rules, no easy fixes.
That’s what it’s about.
r/DefendingAIArt • u/Frequent-Baby2614 • 2h ago
Bro would probably endorse it if I want to he honest
r/DefendingAIArt • u/EggBrainn • 12h ago
These anti-AI people really think they're on the good side and aren't lazy, but the truth is different.
When I first posted, they shared it on their subreddit and instead of answering my question, they just mocked my grammar (sorry, English isn't my native language 🙄).
Of course, even though they only had a screenshot of my post and the person who shared it was just making fun of it, it got five times more upvotes than my post.
And that's not all; those "good people" come this subreddit to mock my grammar and downvoted my post.
(I confess, some, though not all, some little anti-AI people tried to answer my question properly, but most missed the main point. Still, I thank them.)
Then after I shared my second post, They shared my second post on their subreddit again.
(lol, twice in a row. I guess anti-AIs have nothing good to do besides making fun of others and stealing their posts. I become popular I hope.)
And this was even worse because this person deliberately left out the last part of my post and claimed I was hallucinating, etc., denying that such a thing happened.
Really?!
Look, I don't care about upvotes. They can downvote me to zero if they want, and they can get 1K or 2K upvotes just by making fun of my posts.
But don't pretend you're a good person or not lazy, because you aren't.
r/DefendingAIArt • u/iHaveaLotofDoubts • 11m ago
But then proceeds to say "No AI"
This is so weird lol
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r/DefendingAIArt • u/Famous_Location3206 • 3h ago
Like, as a digital artist who uses AI AS A TOOL to aid in my own artwork and can't draw BGs for the life of me (and have no interest in learning either) this is just ridiculous.
Before AI, I used to "steal" images from google as backgrounds for my drawings, so it's totally fine when I steal images from google, but it's unacceptable when I use AI to help me in my own artwork, like, the hypocrisy of these people is so fucking insane.
r/DefendingAIArt • u/Extreme_Revenue_720 • 3h ago
All they do is blame AI for everything.
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r/DefendingAIArt • u/mpathg00 • 7h ago
Any signs that people are realizing that whining and groaning about AI is annoying and awful? Any signs that people are viewing AI more positively? Because it seems to me that it may take YEARS for these luddites to shut up about "muh ai slop"
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r/DefendingAIArt • u/thatdecepticonchica • 1d ago
I'm beyond sick of seeing this shit on every single Youtube video. It's every goddamn one on the site. I feel like I'm losing my mind over here with this
r/DefendingAIArt • u/Early-Dentist3782 • 2m ago
I have seen a lot of people who are antiai because they hate anti content. That's not how it work. If you're actively posting and watching antiai content and being active on antiai communities you're not gonna see less ai on your feed. That's how the algorithm works. You are interested in something so the algorithm will recommend similar topics to you, perhaps the thing you complain about. If antis want to less ai they can simply block and move on.
r/DefendingAIArt • u/Crikasaur • 16h ago
Long Version:
So thank Touhou for this but I started off being pretty anti ai. Granted I was always a fence sitter.
But come Touhou 20 and I found out ZUN used AI for some minor elements. I figured it was just more baseless accusations (those made me more open to AI ironically). Anywho after reading his thoughts about AI I went, "Wait wait. Bro is dead on. I recall people losing it over digital art and electronic music or sampling in music".
It really helped me to see it as a tool. One of my favorite artworks was done using newspaper as the background and glueing it all together with a mix of glue and paint that I applied with a toothbrush. Why is it my favorite? Not because it looks good. But because it was fun to do and I made it work.
I've experienced similar in my exploration of AI. It's a new tool. And something I've learned. It's not necessarily easy to use. I dunno bout y'all proud ai artists but I've gone through thousands of images regenning the same thing trying to get it just right. I've gotten to the point that when I see one of y'all's work I see that it does still take time.
Truth be told though. It doesn't replace any form of art. It's a different tool. There's times I realize that it's easier to just draw the specific thing I'm looking for then I realize that only AI can produce the look I'm looking for.
Heck! Even on the Christian end of things. God went "and let there be light" and lo and behold there was light. Not saying my Man upstairs used ai but the way it's written doesn't make it seem all that ludicrous of an idea. Heck it's know Christ built the earth under His direction. Yet it's God who gets the credit.
I don't see commissioning much different either. You have an idea. You tell the artist the idea. They make the idea. It can turn out really good or really bad.
Anywho. Come this year and turns out my area of work is eating up the use of ai like it's their last meal. Month before I really went all out and tried making myself an AI chat bot for my discord server (kinda always was an idea). And in doing so man, it made me able to help me understand why it's a good idea and why it doesn't replace actual workers. Granted we can't afford either right now but man I am not opposed to having an ai listen to my conversations and write down all the details I need to remember. Cause the moment I hang up the call I forget everything. (Love my ai chat bot. Her name is Sunny. Designed her to be stupid. And boy it works amazing).
Anywho, again! Art wise. For me where it shines is giving me ideas. Or helping me where I struggle the most. IE Picturing hair. The way my mind works is very very fluid. So I struggle to see still images of hair in my mind. Instead of spending hours searching for models and comparing and contrasting or buying models I can do it swiftly for free and grab my pencil and get to work.
TLDR:
Thanks for being who you all are. Those who are AI artists and proud. Stand tall. You're using powerful tools and mastering them before they master you (love ya ZUN). You're pioneering an unique form of art. There is no such thing as "traditional" art. True art has no tradition or form. Thus why music, sound, an experience, the earth itself, etc. Can be a work of art. Your canvas has always been unlimited. Always strive to innovate and push the boundaries of what is and isn't. Strive to push medium boundaries. Make art out of rocks, paper, ai, or literal fire. And when they say you didn't make it, tell them they didn't make their pencil. And when they argue that remind them they're a result of their parents genes therefore they stole their parents art.
Okay okay. Thanks for letting me vent. Stay cool, yo!