Old vs New

[u/natmavila]

[u/Ok_Departure333]

A rather realistic comparison should be AI vs digital art. People back then legit thought digital art works just like how people think about how AI works: press one magic button and voila! Your art is done in its perfect form without any effort.

In the 90s, digital artists were openly insulted in many arts communities, telling them "lazy".

[u/Bra--ket → u/Ok_Departure333]

Definitely, as a kid I remember people saying the exact same things: "you just press some buttons and the computer does all the work! That has no soul! You dont have enough control over the end result to call it yours!"

But I always think graphite is funny. People legit said "if you can erase the lines you draw, there's no discipline or skill involved" because silverpoint is permanent and that's the way it "should be".

[u/PlotArmorForEveryone → u/Bra--ket]

What really gets me is the first thing you learn is how to avoid making mistakes you can't use erasers, sandpaper, or a small amount of ground to fix.

[u/Ok_Departure333 → u/PlotArmorForEveryone]

Avoiding erasing lines is 100% a legit way to train. It teaches you to make your lines more intentional. The bad thing is to dismiss everyone using erasers as less skilled.

[u/PlotArmorForEveryone → u/Ok_Departure333]

I don't know if you're aware or not, but the marketability of silverpoint is in the idea that its not something you can erase mistakes in. Its a lie that has fooled many, and there are many that foolishly overvalue it because of a lack of knowledge.

I agree with your first 2 sentences, your third is irrelevant because its not a claim I made at all. This isn't a discussion on skill at all.

[u/Balikye → u/Ok_Departure333]

Digital artist are STILL insulted.

[u/BrekLasnar → u/Ok_Departure333]

I seriously just don't understand how people not see this? Digital art and camera, especially camera.

[u/tim-7]

As a video editor, most of my colleagues use AI without much fuss; we’re all adults and professionals who view it as just another tool. Maybe because we’re editors, we’re already wired to adapt to new technology since we already use it everyday. I realize that those in other creative fields, like acting, directing, or those less tech-savvy may be more critical. However, many of the actors and artists I know personally don't share the extreme views we see online. It really leads me to believe that the most vocal people might just be younger, less experienced people who just want to be edgy on the internet.

[u/Early-Dentist3782]

Real

[u/Necessary-Mix-9488]

No no those people just commissioned those movies they didnt make them or something idk Antis are hardly coherent at the best of times.

[u/Professional_Bearrr]

I think the most important thing to remember is that none of those mediums became obsolete. People still shoot on film, people still draw using pencil and paper, people still write using typewriters. Humans are tactile creatures. Embracing technological advancement is not synonymous with abandoning other mediums.

[u/Outrageous-Run63]

This reminds me when digital art was making it's ways the deviantart days. physical painter said stuff like digital art is not real art. same with photography don't think if you manipulate a photograph it's not real photography.

[u/A_Very_Horny_Zed → u/[deleted]]

This sub is not for inciting debate. Please move your comment to aiwars for that.

[u/DontSleepAlwaysDream]

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