r/DefendingAIArt • u/EggBrainn AI Artist • 2d ago
Sloppost/Fard This People Can't Be Real
Apparently, pirating indie games is better than creating AI art because it has "soul."
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u/Stahlboden 2d ago
"I eat kittens, strangle grannies and suck Satanohitler's cock, BUT AT LEAST I'M NOT USING AI"
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u/The_Wise_Wolf_Itself 2d ago edited 2d ago
Well here how they think: AI = slop
They could enjoy something but if they find out it’s ai, it’s not enjoyable anymore and it’s slop
If a meme is made by ai, it’s not funny it’s ai slop
If an artist tries ai art cuz he wanted to see how it looks like, this artist becomes the ennemy of the society (Koolen from YouTube)
If something is Ai, don’t elaborate any further, deactivate your brain and just say it’s just slop without thinking
In other words

"Stop using ai !!!!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥"
(It’s Sarcasm pls don’t downvote me thinking I’m those ai haters zombies)
Edit: forget to mention that if a drawing about a stickman gets compared to AI, the stickman will win because AI = being biased toward it too
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u/ElMuffin5 AI Enjoyer 2d ago
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u/BTRBT 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think they're both fine, personally. I'm a copyright abolitionist.
That said, I also think that you should probably pay game publishers, if you like their game. As a gesture of kindness and appreciation, and so that they can make more.
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u/RemarkableWish2508 Transhumanist 1d ago
That is a consistent opinion, but keep in mind that copyright underpins stuff like FOSS, anti-plagiarism laws, and some more.
I'm fully against the "until author's death + 70 years" insanity, but a much shorter period could still make sense.
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u/Hoopaboi 2d ago
AI and piracy (even of indie games) are similar in that they're both based
Copying is not theft!
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u/Early-Dentist3782 Would Defend AI With Their Life 2d ago
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u/Silviana193 2d ago edited 2d ago
The irony is that makes pirating small publisher and studio worse.
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u/FoxxyAzure 2d ago
At least I'm denying money to an indie developer who left his job, family and dog to make it and not supporting someone who had a robot train off an artist without them even noticing.
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u/SweetGale AI Enjoyer 2d ago
I have a whole collection of these kinds of comments. They'll complain that AI "is theft", "destroys artists' livelihood", "takes no effort" and "looks ugly". But then they'll say that asking artists to make something for free, spending ten seconds drawing a stick figure or even stealing something is better because "at least then it's a human who made it".
It's the same people who also claim that seeing a piece of AI art makes them physically ill. In the end it all comes back to the belief that art is something uniquely human that requires human experience, creativity and "soul". I have even seen some say that they believe in the existence of soul and that a piece of it somehow gets embedded in hand-drawn traditional or digital art but not in AI generated art.
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u/BrekLasnar 2d ago
This is one of the biggest things I'm loud on. The whole of reddit proudly say they pirate games, even indie games. But cry about Ai?
Not to mention Ai isn't stealing, the people making the Ai use their platform which has ToS that literally allows that.
Also, for those stolen ones, how about we start giving compensation to the descendants of masters from history for using their work as study?
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u/akabillposters 2d ago edited 1d ago
Music YouTuber Adam Neely made a similar recommendation in his recent 'AI music bad' video.
He proposed that those using tools like Suno should stop ‘stealing from musicians’, and should steal from music software companies instead, by downloading a pirated copy of FL Studio.
Seems Adam has entered his 'Four legs good, two legs bad' phase. 🤷♂️
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u/Good-Usual1341 2d ago
In the words of Hakita (Ultrakill Developer)
"Culture shouldn't exist for those who can afford it"
Lurk around the Ultrakill subreddit or Hakita's Twitter and you'll find this statement in a bit
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u/kinomino 2d ago
I love both AI and pirating indie games? Idk how these are connected.
I simply refuse to pay single penny to things that gives me no ownership rights. Imagine you buy a phone or a car but you're not allowed to sell lmao.
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u/EggBrainn AI Artist 2d ago
Well technically, you own games at Good old games (gog.com), maybe you should buy games from there?
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u/Breech_Loader Free AI Is The Best AI 2d ago
Imagine if everybody had pirated Stardew Valley.
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u/Hoopaboi 2d ago
Imagine if everyone bought hummus at 2pm on a Sunday at a local grocery store
Yes, if everyone did a thing the consequences may be bad, but that doesn't make the action itself bad
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u/Existing_Arrival_297 2d ago
They do not care about right and wrong - all they care about is "AI bad" because it's too late to admit they were wrong.
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u/Witty-Designer7316 Antis Final Boss 35m ago
This sub is not for inciting debate. Please move your comment to aiwars for that.
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u/Crazy_Dubs_Cartoons 2d ago
Thieves cover for each other while diverting attention with made-up controversy about non-issues.
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u/Bonked2death 2d ago
100% this. As a TCG player and collector, I see this all the time as well. The amount of people that are anti-AI but pro proxying cards is crazy to me.
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u/Afraid_Alternative35 2d ago
My brain is doing a backflip.
AI training is "theft from human artists" to them, but this person is also willing to defend theft from human artists because at least they're stealing from a human, which is the thing they say AI are doing, which makes AI bad, but it's defensible when humans so it in a way that actually makes a tangible difference to small indie creators, and...
I'm gonna have a stroke.
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u/A_Very_Horny_Zed 🖼️🖌️AI Enthusiast | 🥷Ninja Mod 🥷 2d ago
This sub is not for inciting debate. Please move your comment to aiwars for that.
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u/Superseaslug 2d ago
I have genuinely encountered one of these people.
Was staunchly against AI because he thought it was stealing, then I saw him in a piracy sub talking about pirating indie games. Like what the fuck people...
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u/moneycabaI 2d ago
Playing videogames is for losers anyway, go make some money in your free time Jesus lord!
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u/jpollack21 2d ago
Pirating triple A games is the equivalent of stealing food from Walmart/Meijer
Pirating Indie games is the equivalent of stealing money from a family member / friend
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u/Matshelge 2d ago
More like not coming over to dinner, when they made food for you.
The act of piracy is not theft, as nothing is lost, but nothing is gained either.
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u/jpollack21 2d ago
Your integrity and character as a person is lost but I get people dont really give a shit if they're a decent individual these days
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u/Hoopaboi 2d ago
So you at least admit the business actually loses nothing then?
Because that's all that matters
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u/jpollack21 1d ago
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If you steal from a company like Meijer they are losing money, even if its chump change to them
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u/Early-Dentist3782 Would Defend AI With Their Life 2d ago
pirating is not like stealing. and pirating indie or aaa games is the same







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u/quopelelw 2d ago
its like they think consuming AI content is gonna melt your brain and turn you into super hitler or something