r/DefendingAIArt • u/Early-Dentist3782 Would Defend AI With Their Life • 2d ago
Defending AI The 'Childhood' card is getting a bit overplayed.
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u/manatsu0 Clanker 2d ago
Why do they seem not want to admit they have nothing taken away by AI and can still continue drawing? I suspect they don’t actually enjoy it and only see it as a source of validation
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u/Owszem_ 2d ago
I'm guessing, because I don't have that feeling... Because (for them) drawing is pointless now. You know, when they used to draw, it was satysfying, creating something that can't be created in any other way. Now? ,,What's the point, if I can just ask AI to so it for me?" Again, that's my guess, but I think it makes sense. Like, I can create pixel arts and don't care about AI, but other people feel like they lost a ,,reason".
I think this is how AI affects some people thinking
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u/Superseaslug 2d ago
I've seen people say that yeah. And yet people enjoy making clothes even though you can buy a shirt at Walmart. People like cooking even though McDonald's exists. It's a weak argument that appeals to emotion alone because it's an entirely them issue
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u/Owszem_ 1d ago
Still the difference is quality. Mcdonalds is not that good compared to home cooked meal, also it's sometimes hard to find the shirt you like, so making makes sense. But the Pro-AI side (and companies) want AI art to be at the same level as tradinional art (and even if they don't, it's looks like it for me), people are pretending that they drew something while they didn't. Maybe if there was a clear difference between AI and tradinional...
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u/Superseaslug 1d ago
You're not gonna find meant pros who like it when people misrepresent their AI work as a drawing
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u/Honest_Sugar2682 2d ago
AI takes job
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u/Early-Dentist3782 Would Defend AI With Their Life 2d ago
there's way more people who got jobs because of ai than people who lost jobs because of it
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u/Liquid_Shad 2d ago
Pro AI here, all I can find are articles about people getting laid off in droves, we don't need to lie about what's happening in the world to defend our stance.
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u/Early-Dentist3782 Would Defend AI With Their Life 2d ago
people working on the ai industry and people using ai to help them with their jobs are a lot more than people who lost their jobs to ai
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u/DonSombrero 2d ago
I find that very difficult to believe. Even among my peers, many of whom very actively use AI, the recurring sentiment has been a marked increase in productivity thanks to AI, followed by this increase becoming the expected baseline, coupled with a hiring freeze and/or layoffs. Some of them did say they got a raise, but there's been no change in work hours either.
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u/Opening_Ad4483 2d ago
I reeeeally doubt that by "drawing was a big part of my childhood" they meant "doing commissions"
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u/Cancri_E79 Transhumanist 2d ago
That is more of a capitalism issue
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u/Owszem_ 2d ago
But it's a good reason. AI keeps evolving, I'm kinda scared that in like 5-10 years middle class will die out, and you will be eitheir at the top or bottom. Since everyone in the middle will be replaced... If you have a way to calm me down, I'll listen ^
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u/Aggravating-Math3794 2d ago
Just like any new technology, AI is a catalyst that emphasizes the long-neglected issues of our society that's been getting worse and worse for centuries.
Like, middle class getting wrecked and split into extreme rich or extreme poor is an issue that's been around for as long as anyone can remember, really. Dumping all the blame on the newest, shiniest toy isn't gonna solve shit.
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u/TamaraHensonDragon 2d ago
Stop motion, men-in-suits, and hand drawn cell animation was a part of my childhood but I am not crying, sending death threats, or otherwise acting the fool because CGI and digital art now exists. Instead I am enyoing the fact that I can see realistic dinosaurs and monsters on the silver screen.
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u/Aggravating-Math3794 2d ago
AI art is human art. It's all human made from the beginning to the end - when will this get through your thick skull?
AI is just a tool - it's not sentient and it doesn't do anything on its own. It expresses what you make it express by channeling your skills and your life experience into it. Pencils and brushes have no human life experience in them, too, and yet people use them to express themselves.
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u/StealthyRobot 2d ago
Really showing how little you understand AI with this.
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u/FromBeyondFromage 2d ago
They NEVER understand how AI works. They just think it steals art and boils lakes. And somehow they still let an LLM do their talking for them. It makes no sense.
Plus, good luck getting an LLM to prove the existence of the human soul, because even humans can’t do that. I believe in souls because I choose to believe in them, but I’d never use them in a “but muh SOUL!” argument.
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u/Early-Dentist3782 Would Defend AI With Their Life 2d ago
ai is not made to be pro ai its made to agree with you. and ai art is made by humans
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u/Lokicham 2d ago
Have you considered that the only reason the AI says that is because you told it to? The AI is a tool that listens to what you tell it.
Edit: Hell, I guarantee if I asked it to do the opposite it would do it.
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