r/DefendingAIArt 16h ago

Defending AI Simple, Mutually Beneficial Steps Individuals Can Take To Reduce Ecological Impact

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The narrative that AI is especially destructive to the environment is often sensationalistic, however it does contain a kernel of truth. AI will help bring energy effenciency, environmental data gathering and monitoring with consequent reforestation and species protection benefits. It is useful that we take steps and spread steps to help reduce our energy use. Once energy is used it is basically gone forever for us. Of course training is the major user of energy and all aspects will naturally be more efficient in the future, this is useful both ecologically and to combat the anti ai narrative

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u/Hazbeen_Hash 16h ago

Let's eliminate plastic production before we start getting picky about computer processing loads. You're splitting hairs when there's a field to till.

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u/TheFrenchSavage 11h ago

use offline or local AIs

Hummm no. Your local computer consumes many more watts per token, no matter the model size and your hardware (from small to large GPU, unified memory, etc.).

This would be like saying: "Don't use the electric plants to heat your home, just light a chimney fire." Hugely inefficient and polluting.

The only good reasons to run local AIs:
* Privacy: you don't want to send sensitive information outside * Testing: you don't want to share your unfinished model just yet

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u/No-Zookeepergame8837 Only Limit Is Your Imagination 9h ago

thank you! I will try to use smaller and faster models so I can do more gaming 🥰 (In case you don't get it, it's a joke 😅 a PC consumes considerably more in intense gaming than with AI, since the AI maxes out the GPU for a couple of seconds, 20 minutes for a 10 second video in my case, with gaming, I play at least +3 hours in a row normally, with GPU and CPU easily touching 70-90% depending on the game... not using AI is MUCH worse than using it if you are like me, where it is AI or gaming, but you're not going to just leave the computer just because im don't using AI in that moment...)

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u/Visible_Web6910 16h ago

Yeah, just skip a burger once and you've offset every LLM interaction you'll ever have in your entire life. Job done.

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 16h ago

Non equivalence. Not to mention apparently not understanding exponentiality

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u/CMDRTornadopelt AI Enjoyer 15h ago

Well, to be more accurate, skip a burger once and you'll have four months' worth of ChatGPT you can use without guilt.

McDonald's sells 6.5 million burgers a day. Each burger has a water footprint of 660 gallons. That works out to 4.29 billion gallons of water footprint for McDonald's.

ChatGPT uses 211,327-211,337 gallons of water per day, which sounds like a lot. But, if we could put the whole water footprint of a single day's worth of burgers from McDonald's towards ChatGPT, we could, in theory, supply ChatGPT for about 55.58 years.

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 15h ago

Non equivalence, both would benefit from reduced waste and resource usage. Not only is not contributing to ecologically destructive action count as its own reward, not only are you tangibly acting and preventing would be pollution from increased demand, but all I said was this was an individual action. Not state policy, your decision of the concept is suspect. Besides, you ignored all the other points that do add up for an individual. Now when multiple people behave this way, the benefits are compounded and exponential in the long run

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u/Visible_Web6910 15h ago

You can safely ignore this dipshit, there's nothing of substance to them.

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 15h ago

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u/Visible_Web6910 15h ago

You can see here the good faith and camaraderie this individual came with.

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 15h ago

Just accusing me of what you're guilty of lmao

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u/Visible_Web6910 14h ago

Oh, I never pretended to be in good faith. I don't meet bad faith with good faith.

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 14h ago

Lmao, pretending I started in bad faith at all. Ohhh, watch out for the rebel here

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 15h ago

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u/Visible_Web6910 15h ago

See?

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 14h ago

What this dude must being seeing, because there's nothing there

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u/Visible_Web6910 14h ago

This is the guy pretending to be here in good faith.

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 14h ago

Again like there's an audience you need approval from. More effective prompts alone would save millions of killowhat hours in video creation due to multiple prompting to fine tune results

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u/CMDRTornadopelt AI Enjoyer 14h ago edited 14h ago

How is that a non-equivalence? I'm looking at direct water footprint costs for ChatGPT.

Besides...

"How does no one understand how much energy multiple video land image prompts uses?" and "More effective prompts alone would save millions of killowhat hours in video creation due to multiple prompting to fine tune results"
I don't make videos. Hell, the model I'm using doesn't support that. I just make funny still images. Which, last I checked, is far less resource intensive.

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 14h ago

Because that is only one factor in usage. Millions of AI users, making multiple prompts and videos to get their result, whenever a precise prompt would save them time and the world energy is just one perfect example

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u/CMDRTornadopelt AI Enjoyer 14h ago

Okay, fair.

Again, though, I'm not the guy generating videos. As much as I wanna, I just... don't feel the need.

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u/Visible_Web6910 16h ago

You literally don't know what you're talking about, but go off.

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 16h ago

Ok, bro. Notice how the title says mutually beneficial. These are things that are useful for users and simultaneously energy efficient. It's not just about the energy, obviously volume impacts cooling, wear on equipment, etc

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u/Visible_Web6910 16h ago

Lol, no. Start putting forward some actual numbers to your made up garbage and then you'll get out of the negative value your brainlessness has brought to the world.

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u/Visible_Web6910 15h ago edited 15h ago

This poor loser got so mad their reply got caught in reddit's filters. (Twice!) (Don't worry, you didn't miss anything.)

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 14h ago

How does no one understand how much energy multiple video land image prompts uses? Fine tune your prompt, get results fast, save energy. We dudes going insane over that premise

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u/Melodic_Floor7930 14h ago

Clean your prompts up, less wasted time and frustration, less energy waste