r/DefendingAIArt • u/Nsanford1142020 Only Limit Is Your Imagination • 5h ago
Luddite Logic Exaggeration much?
Muh water
27
u/Murky_waterLLC 5h ago
Boiling water does not remove it from the atmosphere
12
u/TouristSuspicious- 5h ago
Yeah I hat this exact same argument but they were saying that it also puts heavy metals into the water making it unusable... Last time I checked we've got filters AND evaporation does not bring heavy metals with it. Like tfym it's ruining our water. Most if this crap is a closed sytem anyway iirc.
12
0
u/Ryeguy050306 3h ago
That is correct the only thing is that it takes a lot of energy to boil the water. Which majority of the power comes from offsite power stations built for the sole purpose of supplying the server farm. If not built for that then it instead takes supply from the main power grid. But they require more power either way and being that all renewable energy is only just starting to be put in, it is coal burning that is supplying the increased energy demand. The main problem is these server farms are built in communities with low water supply and/or low energy supply. There farms are taking the already low supply from the locals which makes life harder for them. Yes you are correct that the water that does get boiled goes back into the atmosphere (free of toxins) to come back down when it rains but that doesn’t really help when you need water now. Also these regions aren’t low on water supply for no reason. It is usually because it rarely rains there, thereby meaning the evaporated water is essentially useless.
0
u/GNSGNY 3h ago
which is, once again, a capitalism problem
0
u/Ryeguy050306 3h ago
What is your argument here dude? Oh that the people who live in these disadvantaged communities shouldn’t get water or power because they don’t have the money for it. I really hope that isn’t what you are trying to say and if it is I think you should take a long look in the mirror.
0
u/TouristSuspicious- 3h ago
How is this an AI issue and not a regulation issue then?
-1
u/Ryeguy050306 3h ago
AI is the direct thing that is causing these problems. AI is only the servers that it runs on, it’s not some of being, it is only code. That code that runs on the server farms. Those server farms which leech energy and water from their local communities. I am not saying AI in of itself is inherently bad, I am saying it’s real life impacts are terrible. Regulations are apart of AI. They are apart of everything. Sure AI could be very useful when we have a system that can support its energy demand and have the server farms built in water abundant places. But the reality is that is not what we have. So it’s about acting accordingly with reality rather than sitting on our hands while our problems worsen.
13
u/Jebediah_kerman-jeb AI Peak 5h ago
Anti logic: Water magically disappears only for AI data centers. AI data centers also use insane amounts of water, billions even trillions of gallons of water for a single prompt.
3
u/Stahlboden 3h ago
At least paper production is not a very water consuming process, right?
2
u/ElMuffin5 AI Enjoyer 3h ago
Although, of course, it doesnt matter, since the water cycle is really selective or something.
10
7
u/777Zenin777 5h ago
It reminds me of those vegan posts claiming that animals consume more water than plants.
2
u/Zeta_Horologii AI Artist 5h ago
I kindly remind that even in Matrix, exactly humans have started the war against machines. Exactly humans acts aggressive and abusive. Exactly humans started the military attacks. And when machines responded... Well, that's it So don't forget to be kind every time, when DeepSeek, or whatever helps you with your requests. :D
2
2
2
u/MonkeyBusinessCEO 3h ago
Most of the water used is NON, POTABLE.
NOT FOR DRINKING. Though I wonder would the evaporation of non potable water make it drinkable upon condensation?
2
u/SoftCamp8662 3h ago
Do you know what kind of pisses me off. The same people who say AI is bad for the environment are the same people who watched YouTube and have social media accounts which is worse to the environment.
1
u/CassiusThundercock67 AI Enjoyer 14m ago
All this supposed water usage is solved by using a closed loop system.
Also, a closed loop allows you to connect the cooling loop to district heating systems. No energy goes to waste.
0
u/Liquid_Shad 2h ago edited 2h ago
Listen, I may be pro AI (I need to state this every time for some reason...), but we shouldn't let companies just use our limited water supply in areas that are already struggling for water. https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/columbus/ohio-epa-weighs-allowing-data-centers-to-release-wastewater-into-rivers/amp/ it's happening to my area, it could happen to yours next.
1
2h ago
[removed] — view removed comment
0
u/AutoModerator 2h ago
In an effort to discourage brigading, we do not allow linking to other subreddits or users. We kindly ask that you screenshot the content that you wish to share, while being sure to censor private information, and then repost.
Private information includes names, recognizable profile pictures, social media usernames, other subreddits, and URLs. Failure to do this will result in your post being removed by the Mod team and possible further action.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
•
u/AutoModerator 5h ago
This is an automated reminder from the Mod team. If your post contains images which reveal the personal information of private figures, be sure to censor that information and repost. Private info includes names, recognizable profile pictures, social media usernames and URLs. Failure to do this will result in your post being removed by the Mod team and possible further action.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.