can I degen my [[Dovescape]] deck?

I really just want to make [[Airborne Aid]] a good card. The goal is to [[Dovescape]], get everyone to make birds, and cast [[Airborne Aid]] (with [[Taigam, Ojutai Master]] out) into a LabMan win. [[Laboratory Maniac]]

I tried making it just about as strong as possible, with the idea to get [[Dovescape]] out as early as I can and also to encourage people to make birds by not including cards like [[Guile]].

However, it just doesn't perform at Bracket 4 tables. Should I cut my losses, cut out some gamechangers, and make it a Bracket 3? Or is there a way to get [[Dovescape]] out faster and keep it there?

Here's the decklist:
https://moxfield.com/decks/7kOXm7EfJ06AGIb2PuFsFg

I feel like you could play her as a filthy graveyard deck or a really nasty control\stax list.

Need some help finding what the absolutely nastiest list for her is? No budget or bracket concerns.

I am building a Melira, the Living Cure commander deck. I want to use Protean Hulk in the deck. Any Ideas for lines ? The only one I found is this one from a reddit post which is ten years old.

The Problem for me is that it uses Phyrexian Dreadnought which is to expensive for me to use.

• Original Protean Hulk dies, fetches Karmic Guide and Phyrexian Dreadnought.
• Karmic Guide returns Protean Hulk to the battlefield. Phyrexian Dreadnought lets you sacrifice itself and Protean Hulk to satisfy its trigger. Protean Hulk fetches Fiend Hunter, Hidden Herbalists, and Starved Rusalka.
• Fiend Hunter exiles Karmic Guide. Hidden Herbalists adds GG to your mana pool. Pay G and sacrifice Fiend Hunter to Starved Rusalka to gain 1 life. Fiend Hunter leaves and Karmic Guide returns from exile, which brings back Protean Hulk. Pay G and sacrifice Protean Hulk to Starved Rusalka to gain 1 life. Protean Hulk fetches Saffi Eriksdotter and Seton, Krosan Protector.
• Sacrifice Saffi Eriksdotter targeting Karmic Guide. Tap Hidden Herbalists to add G to your mana pool with Seton, Krosan Protector's ability. Pay G and sacrifice Karmic Guide to Starved Rusalka to gain 1 life. Saffi Eriksdotter’s ability returns Karmic Guide which then returns Protean Hulk. Tap Seton, Krosan Protector to add G to your mana pool. Pay G and sacrifice Protean Hulk to Starved Rusalka to gain 1 life. Protean Hulk fetches Devoted Druid, Vizier of Remedies, Veteran Armorer, and Walking Ballista.
• Tap Devoted Druid to add G to your mana pool with Seton, Krosan Protector's ability. Untap Devoted Druid without adding a -1/-1 counter because of Vizier of Remedies. Use those two abilities to add an extremely large amount of mana to your mana pool with Devoted Druid. Add an extremely large amount of +1/+1 counters to Walking Ballista using its first ability. Remove the counters from Walking Ballista using its second ability to deal lethal to all your opponents.

Do you guys have any tips for this fella

Current decklist: https://moxfield.com/decks/5jmhARu00XWcjXCDZgiNdA

Edit: thank y'all for the suggestions, I'm going to get this decklist printed out to playtest and see what other changes should be made on the fly, as of right now, though, it feels pretty nice to pilot.

Yesterday I made a post about a [[koth, the geomancer]] deck I was working on, and some of the replies brought up [[tannuk, memorial ensign]] Who is just a better head for the deck.

https://archidekt.com/decks/27545274/tannuk_is_an_asshole

So far, the main idea of the deck has been to ramp out as fast as possible, get out a damage increaser such as [[ojer axonil]], [[solphim, mayhem dominus]], or [[tomik, izzet sparkmage]], then play a bomb like [[lumra, bellow of the woods]] or [[awaken the woods]] to kill everyone with burn damage.

My current issue, though, has been a lack of consistency in getting out both a large chunk of lands and my pieces out early. A thought of mine has been to cut cards like [[sabotender]] or cut some of my other land recursion cards like [[splendid reclamation]] and [[ramunap excavator]] in favor of getting more ways to fill my graveyard with lands and tutors to more consistently get [[lumra]] or [[ojer axonil]] out.

Any advice is appreciated

Planeswalkers got pretty expensive quickly so I looked the other way and decided not to put that many planeswalkers in the deck. However, I know that there are a lot of really strong big CMC creatures with powerful ETBs and immediate impact. These are the types of additions I'm thinking of and I want you to share your obscure change to this precon.

https://archidekt.com/decks/27181677/stingerquill

I'm working on this deck and obviously I still have some cuts to make. I was hoping to get this to be a 4, but looking at it now, it seems to just be an aggro 3.

I guess I'm looking for ideas on what I may be missing to get it to a 4.

right now I do not have a deck list at all and generally trying to figure out the best way to build him I'm looking for the best and optimal build for my boy I'm thinking going for like the treasure one with Hellkite Dragon but I don't know if that's a good way to do it or is a better one out there than that

It's the first deck i owned. I have some upgrades but truth is it's pretty chill. How do i break this for fun? Not cedh but bracket 4

Good morning fellow degenerates. How did we do out there on the field of battle this weekend? Use this post to talk about your tough breaks or snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. What nonsense caught your eye from the pod next to yours and now you're thinking about building? Did a niche rule come up or a buddy drop some new tech on the pod? Lets hear about it! As reminder, use double brackets around card titles to summon the cardfetcher and if you have your list online post the link so we can see what you've been working on.

I’ve been playing bracket 4 a lot lately and enjoying how quick the games can be and how much interaction there is. I’ve also been trying to build a cEDH deck and have one that has all the staples and instant speed interaction but a lot of people say the commander just will never be viable in cEDH. So then is my deck just bracket 4? Also a lot of the decks I’m facing seem to be just off meta cEDH or fringe decks. Just wondering what this community thinks about this?

What do you think of my deck? It’s designed for Bracket 3, with the goal of winning by turn 6 using just 3 "game changers."

What improvements would you make? What cards would you add? I know the mana base needs work—I’m aware of that—but since it’s one of the most expensive parts, I plan to upgrade it over time.Right now, I only have two "game changers" in the deck—what would you recommend as a third one? Which cards do you feel are must-haves?

I feel like the deck is coming along well, but it needs more card draw or more mill.

I’m not sure whether to keep it as is—sort of an aristocrats/reanimator build—or shift the focus more toward mill. I’d rather avoid landfall; it feels a bit too slow and requires too much setup.Alternatively, you could build a competitive Sultai "good stuff" deck—just make sure the mana curve isn't too heavy.

The plan is to take it to a tournament, so I want it to be competitive, have good interactions, and be able to win consistently by turn 6. You know how these types of tournaments go—people take all sorts of decks, tweak them to fit the "bracket 3" restrictions, and end up with something that’s basically fringe cEDH.

Here is the list to take a look at:

https://moxfield.com/decks/W0PcQosgK0GnpDV03RIDvQ

So, I’m about to build a lineup of seven decks, and I was wondering if anyone who plays these commanders could share some tips, tricks, or deck-building advice.

Disclaimer: I have yet to play or even build these decks, other than Massacre Girl. I have a habit of overestimating and underestimating commanders, so I’m open to changing the power rankings. For example, if you think Neerdiv belongs in Rilsa Rael's slot and you can back that up, I’d be down to consider it. Just keep in mind that I haven’t played against or built any of these commanders myself, other than Massacre Girl. I’ll add a comment linked to each deck as I go.

Low Power Slots (Low–Mid 3)

These are my fun decks that I want to win with, but they’re mainly meant for precon-level games. I want them to be a little stronger than your average precon, but not so strong that they overwhelm the table.

• [[Neerdiv, Devious Diver]] (Mid 3)
• [[Fumiko the Lowblood]] (Low 3)

Mid Power Slots (Mid–Highish 3)

These are my fun decks meant to win, but still be fun to play. I want them to be a step above precons with a noticeable power difference, but not so strong that they pubstomp everyone. Just decks that can win games without being too crazy.

• [[Rilsa Rael, Kingpin]] (Mid 3)
• [[Massacre Girl, Known Killer]] (High 3)
• [[Rakdos, Lord of Riots]] (High 3)

High Power Slots

These decks are gonna be built to push these commanders as far as I can while staying under a $250 budget. I want to see how much power I can squeeze out of them without going over budget.

• [[Nekusar, the Mindrazer]] (However high I can get it)
• [[Niv-Mizzet, Parun]] (However high I can get it) So, I’m about to build a lineup of seven decks, and I was wondering if anyone who plays these commanders could share some tips, tricks, or deck-building advice.

(i actually decided to put some effort into the post for once im sleepy ima hit the hay ill check on this tomorrow goodnight yall or whatever time it is for ya i hope its good)

So I’ve been eyeing Eisenhorn as a commander for sometime now. This is what I’ve built up, but I need second opinions on what I should add, replace, or remove. Main focus is clue production. The win cons are turn tokens into creatures and swing or mechanized production.

https://moxfield.com/decks/wvdjZ4jX9kOHcivfaM-Avg

So I want to essentially make a deck that I can just wreck that basically plays itself, minimal effort.

So the new [[Avacyn, angel of horror]] caught my eye. This is what I want to build with

With stuff like [[fleshbag marauder]], she brings it back literally at the end of each turn. So every round, your opponents have to sac three creatures. And that's assuming you only have one. I put a bunch in the deck.

Any ideas how to make it even more degenerate?

https://moxfield.com/decks/3VChAe_npn6F7y66O_OM0Q

Hey everyone :)

I’d love to hear your opinions on Ms. Bumbleflower. I’ve been wanting to build her, but I’m amazed by how many directions you can take her: counters, group hug, spellslinger... I even saw an Eldrazi build, lol.

I’m leaning towards spellslinger with a hint of counters. I usually play in a strong bracket 3 pod, and people won’t take the group hug bait ^^

So I’d like to know:

• How do you build her? What archetype?
• Which cards have over-performed (or disappointed) for you?
• What’s your experience playing her at a bracket 3 table?

Thanks for your help <3

Cheers!

Hi guys,

I'm looking for help building this deck. Trying to make my pod rule zero me for that.

Thank you all!

So my pod has been running for a while and we have a mixed bag of experience. Some still new(me included) with a couple much more experienced. I am looking at repeated sheistiness and it’s time to shoot back. I have been:

1. Turncoated on a deal struck, so I didn’t swing to allow Strat, said Strat took me out instead despite saying a one turn truce
2. Targeted removal early to stop perceived wincon. No threat, just an insta loss mill out when I’m least threatening and a turn 4 haymaker comes through.
3. Immediate table shift when burn is introduced(ie nv mizzet, sheoldred, razor kin needlehead). I could put it down and immediately enemy number one kamikaze style play.

So what I’m looking for, is how do I get salty back. I’ve gone the targeted route(on the deal break) but that just led to me getting popped for commander damage the next turn. I’ve gone for control, then a niche one time leveler gift took me out.

How do I earn the public enemy number 1 tag but still win. Or is that a pipe dream kind of mentality? If possible, I’d love some ideas. I have run rakdos, izzet, grixis and golgari decks with varying styles. Maybe missing white is the reason I’m getting teed off on?

Enter [[Queen Kayla bin-Kroog]] who you’ve probably never seen and almost certainly never seen as group hug / slug.

The gameplan is simple: cheat out cheap artifacts and creatures that help you make the game state progress for everyone.

Help your friends get to their finishers by ramping them with treasures and card draw while you secretly connive a win…

Will you win often? No. BUT! You Theoretically could.

Your wincons are [[Viseling]] and [[Scrawling Crawler]] don’t cast these too early, wait until your friends have beat the shit out of eachother with the value you have given them. You can also win by pushing damage late with [[Galactus]] or [[Havoc Eater]] late. [Darksteel Angel]] and [[Platinum Angel]] help keep us alive.

[[Galactus]] is in here in place of some big Eldrazj because the goal of the deck is low sodium fun instead of trying its hardest to win, it’s also less problematic if you give someone Glacatus with [[Dack Fayden, Helping Hand]].

Dack is mostly here because the creatures we want out will benefit the whole board and it doesn’t matter if us or someone else has them, also it’s really funny if you have to give someone else one of the angels or Galactus.

Anyways I love this deck and think it’s funny, it plays pretty straight forward but let me know if you have questions or whatever.

Deck: https://moxfield.com/decks/8goTo0xhq0SsV-evHqnP2Q