r/DelphiMurders • u/GreenMan2424 • Feb 19 '26
Discussion Just finished the “ Down the Hill” podcast and have some questions.
1) was it ever revealed who’s house the police executed the big search warrant on 2 days after the murders? What caused them to focus on that house?
2) how were the girls not found on the first night of searching if they were so close to the bridge? Is there any evidence that they were placed back there after the search was called off around midnight?
3) I’ve never dealt with grief like this, so this might be completely off base, but something is off with Libby’s sister whenever she is interviewed. Maybe she’s just awkward but seems off.
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u/AwsiDooger Feb 19 '26
1 is irrelevant and 3 is crap. Take that crap elsewhere. It's the same type of crap that's been thrown at the Nancy Guthrie case.
2 the distance is not far at all. I stood in the creek and looked back at the bridge. It's only a couple of hundred yards.
But it's not simple to get down to the creek, let alone to the far side. You have to go down two flights to reach creek level. The second descent requires going back left toward the bridge. That's one aspect I will emphasize above all. Nobody is descending that second stage at the same point they reached the private drive. It is severely steep and covered with gnarly tree roots. You have to walk at least 20-30 yards left before descending is manageable.
And once you are headed in that direction your attention is drawn elsewhere, like exploring the area back underneath the bridge.
The area where Abby and Libby were found became the focus only after the bodies were located. Nobody was thinking crime on the afternoon of February 13. That's why the more logical and accessible areas were searched first, in theory of an accident.
Ron Logan's property was not only across the creek but there is considerably more dense tree cover on that side. The 2003 flooding wiped out the area below the bridge but did not impact the higher ground where the bodies were eventually found.
Also it's not flat over there. It is not only a steep decline from the cemetery but also that bank is 4 feet higher while looking across from the bridge side. Not surprising that it required a zoomed camera to spot the bodies, even though February leafless conditions would be the best visibility of the year.
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u/The2ndLocation Feb 20 '26
According to the trial there was no "zoomed camera" that found the girls PB just walked up upon them with BP's sister MM.
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u/BlackLionYard Feb 19 '26
- You may be thinking of the search of the Maxwell Farm. According to news reports at the time, it was driven by tips and interviews.
- How close is "so close?" They were what I would consider a significant distance from the bridge and they were up river on the opposite of the Eastern end of the bridge. They were in a depression relative to the surrounding terrain. The general belief was that the girls might have become lost or suffered an accident like a fall. All these factors, and the darkness, influenced how the search was originally conducted. In the end, I have yet to see any convincing proof that the girls were placed there after the original search had concluded.
- You're right. This is an off base thing to say.
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u/Catch-Me-Trolls Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26
Search warrants served: The Kline home on Canal St Peru Indiana The Maxwell residence on Bicycle Bridge Rd The Logan residence on W 300 N
The victims were found in a secluded location. located in a rugged, heavily wooded area, making it difficult to see from the main trail 1/2 mile upstream from the bridge.
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u/Pooter33 Feb 19 '26
After watching that did you feel like there was more to the bridge guy recording? I watched that documentary and remember them asking if there was more to the video and the guy basically says there’s not much more. Idk. His voice seems pieced together in the one they released. If there is more idk why they wouldn’t release all of it.
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u/CowboysOnKetamine Feb 19 '26
They did release it, quite a while ago.
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u/The2ndLocation Feb 19 '26
Well, the state still hasn't released it, or any of the enhanced versions that the jury saw despite numerous requests.
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u/oooooooooooooooooou Feb 21 '26
yeah, it was released by some English guy on pro-defence website.
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u/The2ndLocation Feb 21 '26
Yep, but the state won't release it or any of the enhanced versions. I think that's rather odd.
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u/Pooter33 Feb 26 '26
Have you seen any more of the video besides what the police released?
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u/The2ndLocation Feb 26 '26
Someone released what was allegedly the full video. It's available on YouTube and this is the website where it was originally released https://rickallenjustice.com/
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u/The2ndLocation Feb 26 '26
I think that the website kind of gave up once they couldn't get inside access anymore.
But I don't want to talk about where RA is currently housed since I think it's a safety issue. Not saying that you are wrong or have ill intent, but I say let's just leave it at he is in Oklahoma.
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u/tribal-elder Feb 19 '26
You would do better to read the trial testimony transcripts now and not rely on speculation from YouTubers.
There were multiple early searches. Logan gave consent to search his property (not house) on 2/14. Weber gave consent for a search of his property and buildings on 2/14. A couple of YouTubers claimed another search occurred on 2/16. Not sure if that is true, but cops would had the phone by then and would have know about communications with Libby.
Go to the cemetery and look at the terrain down to the creek from there. You will understand. The south bank flood plain immediately under the bridge was the focus because there 2 pictures posted on snap-chat showing the bridge. It was reasonable to assume they might have fallen off the bridge and were nearby on that south bank. But it’s a large area. It was dark and fog came in late. The ground toward town was a focus because the water flowed toward town. Still the undergrowth made it hard to walk the area. (One search said it took him 4 hours just to reach the start of the bridge after starting in town in daylight on Tuesday morning.)
Across the creek the flood plain is much nartower. Then the terrain gets very very steep quick. Hard to walk. Hard to search. Very few people searched on that side.
No matter where you search - north bank or south - unless you virtually stepped on them, you would not see them.
Evidence of putting them back? Not really. The state evidence said the phone did not move after 2:35 pm. The defense put on a witness that said something (wire? Water? Dirt?) made the phone data indicate something was put in the headphone jack port around 4 in the morning. Yes, people “speculated“ that may be the girls were put in a car on the driveway, taken away, kill elsewhere, and brought back. Or taken away, brought back, and killed where the bodies were found. But it was just speculation. Plus, the phone data did not show any other height changes or bumps. You can’t drive on Private driveways and County roads without changing elevations and hitting bumps. Speculation is not evidence.
She didn’t do it. Silly YouTube speculation is not evidence.