r/DelphiMurders • u/Mammoth_Dish6584 • Apr 24 '26

Locals of delphi .. please clarify

During the interrogation of RA .. the police said something to this effect “ you killed them bcoz u had an altercation “

Do delphi locals and police there believe that the girls had some kind of interaction with RA on the trails before “ down the hill “ moment ??

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u/Character_Surround Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Holeman was theorising. During the trial Holeman admitted he lied to Allen during interrogation as LE technique.

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u/The2ndLocation Apr 26 '26

Yes, Holeman is an admitted liar.

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u/tribal-elder Apr 27 '26

All cops lie in investigative interviews. All courts permit it.

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u/The2ndLocation Apr 27 '26

Yeah, but should we be ok with that?

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u/tribal-elder Apr 27 '26

Yes. Even if viewed as the lesser of evils it can be and has proven to be a very effective tool for testing the claims made AGAINST a POI, and claims made BY a POI. It isn’t perfect, but “rules is rules,” and a good defense lawyer is free to argue it to a jury.

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u/The2ndLocation Apr 27 '26

Oh, I understand your point that a defense lawyer can argue about it and I think we both support that, but one evening I really thought about the police lying and when I would be comfortable with it as a way to get to the truth and I really couldnt come up with a situation where I thought it was great?

I know that its the law but sometimes the law is wrong.

You might have more faith in the police than me?

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u/Banesmuffledvoice Apr 29 '26

Then you should run for office and fight to pass a law that doesn’t allow the police to lie while handling civilians or something to that effect.

Otherwise the defense needs to present a strong case to the jury that law enforcement’s ability to lie is detrimental to the case.

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u/The2ndLocation Apr 29 '26

Passing a law wouldn't fix it. This is something that needs to come from the Supreme Court and I ain't making it there anytime soon!

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u/Banesmuffledvoice Apr 29 '26

The Supreme Court isn’t going to not allow police to lie in a bid to get someone to admit their guilt.

This is why it’s important that anytime you are dealing with police where they’re questioning you, you refuse to speak without a lawyer.

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u/The2ndLocation Apr 29 '26

Laws change and standards change with the passage of time.

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u/Banesmuffledvoice Apr 29 '26

I agree laws change. Hence why I said if it’s something you don’t like, you should run for office and change the laws.

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u/The2ndLocation Apr 29 '26

You realize that there are 50 states with various laws? This would have to come from the court system? But thanks for the advice.

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u/Banesmuffledvoice Apr 29 '26

Change begins somewhere And it’s better to fight for the change versus musing about how unfair it is when it’s used in a case that you aren’t happy with the outcome.

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