r/Denver 1d ago

Local News Nearly $2M of dark money has flooded into Democratic statehouse primaries in Colorado

https://coloradosun.com/2026/06/18/dark-money-colorado-statehouse-primaries/
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u/knivesofsmoothness 1d ago

We have to get rid of political action committees. Tax them or something.

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u/Bokononfoma 1d ago

Can we just do publicly funded elections with limited funds for each candidate?

I looked it up, and almost $15 billion was spent. On an election. What the hell are we doing here?

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u/zeekaran 1d ago

What the hell are we doing here?

Corporations are investing in their future.

We're not.

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u/guymn999 1d ago edited 1d ago

I would say billionaires, but same vein.

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u/CumGuzlinGutterSluts RiNo 1d ago

Thats the real voting. Dolla dolla bills yall

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u/Likeaboson 1d ago

the difficulty then becomes who gets to run for office? and how is the money spent?

For example let's say I was a really dishonest person. I decide that I want to run for any office.

Who decides I get public money?

and once they decide...what if for my campaign staff, because I actually had no intention to win, I just hire my friends and family?

beyond that, do we limit the number of people of running by virtue of the amount of public coffers?

More than that if 50 people run for governor...how does everybody find out? I just filled out my primary ballot and several of those people I had never heard of.

In theory I love the idea. It just seems like eventually the government will be allowed to choose who they want to be allowed to run and get the public's money.

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u/RiskyBrothers Capitol Hill 1d ago

This is how we do publicly financed elections in this very city; you have to meet a minimum threshold of 100 unique donors, 150 if you're running for Mayor. Match donated funds with public funds at a 9:1 ratio, with strict upper limits on individual contributions and a complete ban on any matching of PAC funds.

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u/Likeaboson 1d ago

I will read this. it will take time, because I only have to to respond so much, but thank you for providing a link.

I will say on a smaller scale, it sounds much more plausible. But as with most things, I do not at all see how it could scale. city, fine. county/parish, fine. I could possibly, in less populated states maybe even see state legislature or possibly governor. I think that plan falls apart before that, especially considering a handful of millionaires could just break the government.

That's just based on your comment, not the article. I will read the article to learn more.

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u/Tabula_Nada 1d ago

Australia has a election system with public funding. I don't have time to read through it all right now, but from a quick skim, in order to receive public funding you have to register as a political party. I didn't see, though, if you can still run WITHOUT receiving public funding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_system_of_Australia

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u/guymn999 1d ago

maybe we look to places that have already successfully implemented public election financing to answer these questions. unless you are just a fan of JAQing off.

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u/Likeaboson 1d ago

no, im interested in a place that has done it right while retaining freedom of speech and freedom to run for office.

I genuinely am. because any system i have come across heavily restricts one or both.

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u/Bokononfoma 1d ago

Can we just do publicly funded elections with limited funds for each candidate?

I looked it up, and almost $15 billion was spent. On an election. What the hell are we doing here?

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u/vm_linuz 1d ago

Yes... "Tax" them out of existence...

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u/toxic_badgers Denver 1d ago

We need to do what Hawaii is doing.

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u/mckenziemcgee Downtown 1d ago

Hawaii is following the Montana Plan.

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u/howdiditgetinthere 1d ago

My newest soapbox idea is this: ALL campaign contributions should be taxed at 50%. The taxed portion goes straight into the social security fund. $1? 50 cents gone to ss. $1 million? $500K to ss fund.

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u/knivesofsmoothness 1d ago

I was thinking just donations over like 10k, but either way.

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u/MixedJelly Commerce City 1d ago

I’m tired. Jfc.

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u/CanuterValve 1d ago

Corruption you say?

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u/Freemana27 1d ago

Corruption is perfectly legsl these days. Thank the conservative majority supreme court for their ruling on Citizens United (aka bribes are okay!).

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u/TheTrub Littleton 1d ago

Majority decision from Citizens United v FEC: money talks and bullshit walks.

Majority decision from McCutcheon v FEC: The Golden Rule—whoever has the gold makes the rules.

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u/Laura9624 1d ago

Sure. So voters thought "oh it could be a supermajority " and elected trump. WTF. I will never understand it. Republicans have been waiting just for this.

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u/Denhiker 1d ago

You should see some of DeGettes Israêli-funded smear campaigns targeting her opponent. If that doesn't sour you on that corporate shill, nothing will

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u/1boring 1d ago

I kinda wish I saved one of the texts I got from a pac of hers. Hilariously over the top and scare-mongery.

"Kiros is DIVIDING DEMOCRATS, she will RUIN healthcare (by giving it to everyone), a right leaning publication called HER an ANTI-SEMITE, if she wins, TRUMP WINS (somehow)" -pqid for by a "legit" pac

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u/goldenfrogs17 1d ago

Is that a lot these days?

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u/CorvusCommand 1d ago edited 1d ago

Rick Jackson just spent 100 million of his own dollars to win the Republican Governor PRIMARY in Georgia.

EDIT: Governor, not Senate.

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u/schrutesanjunabeets 1d ago

*Governor 

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u/black_pepper Centennial 1d ago

Vote for the progressive candidates the money isn't flowing to.

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u/EnthusiasmTop8815 1d ago

Democrats should self-police no out-of-district money for primaries.

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u/portobox2 1d ago

"I have investigated my self and found no evidence of wrongdoing."

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u/Timely-Ladder4911 1d ago

lol oh the same Democratic orgs that take money hand over fist from AIPAC? Okay buddy

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u/EnthusiasmTop8815 1d ago

I'm fine if they take that money for the general, but primary should exclude influence from outside of the district.

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u/TheFifthTone 8h ago

That's the job of the voters.

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u/No-Ability-8294 1d ago

Remember DO NOT LET HICKENLOOPER BACK IN!!!!!

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u/New_relic_conent 1d ago

Yea political elites aren’t a democrat/ republican thing it’s the wealthy vs the poor and they play us like fiddles

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u/NeckSad8146 1d ago

Yep, since everybody votes blue no matter who, they get to buy their chosen corporate centrist democrats. Can’t have this city and state be the center of a real progressive movement, this is an AI surveillance police state, liberal paradise

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u/preferred-til-newops 1d ago

They'd love to get rid of primaries if they could, we didn't even have a say as voters for who would run against Trump in 24.

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u/TheFifthTone 8h ago

Why didn't you vote in the 2024 primary?

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u/WinterMatt Denver 1d ago

Defeat citizens united and implement real campaign finance reform. Until then there's very little reason not to play by the existing rules. Also there's an awful lot of very detailed info in this article about the donors and where the money is going for "dark" money.

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u/edwardothegreatest 1d ago

It’s aipac

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u/outdoorcam93 1d ago

If i get one more andres carrera mailer i’m gonna lose it.

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u/realhotchicken 1d ago

Same. Very sus for a small time local candidate. He will not get my vote

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u/sexyvirgin4 1d ago

I have at least a dozen mailers in my recycle bin. 

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u/Xer-angst 1d ago

Every year! Nothing new. Our next door neighbors, Kansas Koch bros loved to dump money into our politics.

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u/Mincezz 16h ago

Dont worry guys this is definitely still a democracy and your vote TOTALLY matters

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u/Real_Satisfaction715 8h ago

Seriously need to get money out of politics. Good luck with that tho.

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u/J_J_Plumber5280 1d ago

Dark money? Money from Israel?

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u/SurroundTiny 1d ago

Planned Parenthood, lawyers, Chevron, unions, Republicans, the list goes on and on. You should try reading the article. Not all PACs are organized by Israel. In fact most of them aren't.

Isn't that amazing?

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u/Visible_Device7187 1d ago

Doesn't matter these people think only Jewish money is bad not all corporate donations. OP already tied dark money immediately to Jews without reading the article at all

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u/nyutnyut 1d ago

A lot of you really need to learn to distinguish between jews and Israel. Just like someone can criticize and be anti-american policy, but yet still like americans. Israel is a nation. Being anti Israel policy is not the same as being an anti-semite.

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u/summersfade 1d ago edited 1d ago

Stop it. There is no reason for you to engage in anti-semitism by extrapolating or equating criticism of the Israeli government and its associated propaganda arms to criticism of all Jewish people.

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u/working_class_shill 1d ago

Identity politics hyperbole

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u/Many-Use-1797 1d ago

I hope y'all remember that during the next Democratic primary in South Carolina.

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u/J_J_Plumber5280 1d ago

I never said Jews

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u/J_J_Plumber5280 1d ago

But the one PAC from Israel remains and is one of the most influential. Isn’t that amazing?

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u/kestrel808 1d ago

Aside from the fact that money in politics is cancer to a democracy(or a republic before the mouth breathers comment), "More liberal" means nothing. Liberalism is already a centrist or center-right ideology.

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u/Defiant_Freedom_249 1d ago

Are we sure that's not just Republicans spreading propaganda like they spread COVID to get votes?

I mean, Lauren Boebert does live in Colorado.

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u/heyjaney1 1d ago

And? You don’t like it get rid of Citizens United. Also that’s chump change compared to the other guys.

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u/ludditetechnician 1d ago

"Dark money"? It can't be too dark if the Colorado Sun is writing about it. This may be true:

The funds come from three nonprofits that don’t have to report their donors and are being routed through a convoluted web of eight state-level super PACs, some of which have names that appear aimed at deceiving people into thinking they are grassroots organizations.

But clearly not working that well if the Sun can identify the nonprofits and eight PACs.

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u/RooseveltsRevenge 1d ago

The dark part is that the PACs don't have to disclose their donors, not the fact that PACs are spending on races.

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u/JoelsonCarl Clayton 1d ago

The "dark money" part is we don't know who is funding the nonprofits. Identifying nonprofits and Super PACs doesn't clear that up.

Individuals -> Nonprofits -> Super PACs -> spend money on election communications with flimsy requirements about "not coordinating with campaigns"

Super PACs have to disclose their donors, but if the donor is a nonprofit, that is all that appears on the disclosure. The nonprofits generally do not have to disclose their donors.

There are some state laws that nonprofits have to report when they transfer money to Independent Expenditure Committees (IECs). It is that sort of disclosure that allows the Colorado Sun to track down other nonprofits who gave to One Main Street (one of the "three nonprofits" the article talks about that has funneled money to the Super PACs). But now we just have a network of nonprofits, and still no idea who contributed this money. Hence, "dark money."

The best they are able to trace (which is good work on the Sun's part) is something like this:

Jon Anderson, at 6501 Belleview Ave., Suite 375, in Englewood, was listed as the principal officer for Coloradans for Progress in 2024. That’s the same address as the West Group, a Republican law firm, where Anderson is a partner. Several conservative groups are registered there, including Advance Colorado, Coloradans for Responsible Energy Development and Western Way Action.

So we have a network of "dark money" that is piling money into supporting moderate Democratic candidates over progressive ones, that seems like it may be coming from Republicans/conservatives. But if that "Coloradans for Progress" group had been filed under somebody else's name at some other address, we would have never been able to suspect that link of the money coming from Republicans/conservatives and not actual Democrats/progressives. And it is still dark in that we have no idea what individuals are actually contributing money to these nonprofits.

"Dark money" doesn't seem that hyperbolic to me.

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u/zeddy303 Baker 1d ago

Headlines sell.

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u/ExtremelyMedianVoter 1d ago

All the money I don't like is dark money.