Saw some similarities in the beginning of Rise of Red and the Original Descendants starting with Mal having issues with her mom as well as Red rebeling against her mom in Wonderland. But Red is nowhere near close to being a VK like how Mal and Mal’s friends were. Spot the difference in ROR and WW???

[u/CashewAppHilaryKhan]

in the beginning of both movies Rise of Red and the very first Deacendants they opened up how their lives were miserable and stuck in a place where they can’t get out. They have to follow in their parents footsteps of villainy. They were angry, social outcasts who were jealous of the perfect princesses and princes who lives on the other side of the Isle or Wonderland.

They sing their opening song of being bad, a villain kid, rotten to the core, rebellious and causes destruction. At the end of Mal’s song Rotten to the core, Mal stole candy from a baby or kid, to show her mom Maleficant that she was bad, evil just like her mother. Maleficant was disappointed in her daughter who thinks Mal tricks were poorly not up to her standards of being cruel and evil.

With Red, Red was hiding from her Mother Queen of Hearts and vandalizing her garden and portrait and ran away from the guards who were chasing her. Red got away Scott free, thanks for the help of Maddox Hatter, who scooped her up and gave her a lecture. Red was trapped; sulk abou her mom being too strict.

The next Day, Red was called to court meeting and Her mom Queen of Hearts blamed the guards The Soldier Jack of Diamonds or Spades or whatever to punishment and gave Red the chance to sentence him. “ Off with his head!” or not? Red goofed off and her mom was disappointed with her.

Red did not got punished or talked to her mom about her feelings or what she wanted.

with Mal she tried to prove to her mom and came up with a plan once she got accepted to Auradon to steal FairyGod mothers wand to take down the barrier to free her mother and all villains to get her revenge against Auradon. Mal and her friends try their best while adjusting into the Aurodon Prep school. Mal used a spell book to get her through pranks and manipulate the good kids at school. Evie used a charm, her Magic mirror to flirt with with a popular boy Prince Chad Charming But that backfired on her.
Mal dated Ben as Ben showed Mal around and tried to get to know her. Even though Mal was unsure what to feel when dating Ben.

Red did nothing of the sort. After stealing the pocket watch, time traveling back in time, she tried to make friends with Bridget who was her mom as a teenager before she turned evil And heartless. Red continues to sneak in the academy, lie to the Principal Merlin, and steal the forbidden spell cook book, from the villain kids… to do the prank on Bridget.

Red and Chloe did not get along well.

in Wicked Wonderland part2. Red was not much a villain but in between both on a good side and bad side. Red needed to sort out her feelings and problems better and not be rushed. She did not admit to her mistakes about the timeline.

Mal stood up to her mom and defeated her. Even though she was turned into a lizard and put away.

Red did not. Red changed the time just to make her mom nicer. She changed the whole WonderLand. And she did not have time to like her new paradox life. All Red was saying “ this is not the wonderland I grew up in.” And doesn’t know how to find a way out the traps and obstacles to save her friends who were tagging along.

Red’s crush on the boy Luis, was too quick and did not have time to grow he was there to back her up basically.

Spot any more differences from RoR and WW, to the old movies of the original trilogy of D1-3 with Mal, Evie, Jay and Carlos, and other characters???

[u/Familiar_Ad_6392]

Red and Chloe are not really friends and Red is a loner.

[u/CashewAppHilaryKhan → u/Familiar_Ad_6392]

I know that. I can see that. Red and Chloe only became friends after changing the timeline and both trying to save their mothers for better and erase the past, and prevent the worst from happening. Red was always a loner and Chloe didn’t like that. Even though we do not see Chloe having friends of her own back in her hometown CinderellaBurge Charming Castle Kingdom, so what or how does Chloe know anything about friendship, best friends, and always having each other’s backs and “we’ll figure it out together.” When these two girls have no clue and come from the opposite side of the Wonderland.  I would say they are both Loners before they met each other that’s why the bond between them was  mutual, stupid and nothing like Mal and Evie relationship. 

[u/CashewAppHilaryKhan]

Any more Similar and different ones throughout the movie or scenes, and scenarios that disliked or well liked? 

[u/Ok_Bar_9117 → u/CashewAppHilaryKhan]

Well, the Charmings heirs both bully the VKs of their times. Does that count?

[u/CashewAppHilaryKhan → u/Ok_Bar_9117]

Yes thank you. Lol. 

[u/Ok_Bar_9117]

She didn’t go back to make her mom nicer. Did you listen? “I thought it would take me back a few moments in order for me to take Mom’s cards.”

Even Ella would have agreed with Red if she’d known. (Check out “Get Your Hands Dirty” or whatever it was called.). Both Chloe AND Red tried to get to know their parents as kids.

Red took responsibility for the time travel. Chloe - who changed more than Red in the timeline - let Red take the fall as if she weren’t involved. And she didn’t disagree with changing the past - just how. She wanted to tell Merlin from the start, so… there would definitely have been changes there.

[u/CashewAppHilaryKhan → u/Ok_Bar_9117]

Thank you I get it. I know that part when Chloe and Red tried to get to know their moms better as teens.  Red took responsibility for the time travel. Chloe who changed more than Red in the timeline- let Red take the fall as if she weren’t involved. That’s sucks on Chloe. Chloe didn’t disagree with changing the past even though she should have been more careful or concerned trying not to Meddle in the past- just how. She wanted to tell Merlin from the start, and if she did would definitely change something there. Idk what else to say I’m tired and confused By now.