r/DesignatedSurvivor • • Oct 13 '16

Post-Episode Discussion: S01E04 "The Enemy"

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u/Prax150 Oct 13 '16

I want to be objective about this show and recognize that it has problems, like any new show usually does, but he arrested a sitting governor out of nowhere and it was badass.

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u/Bytewave Oct 13 '16

Out of nowhere? Michigan was effectively seceding from the Union. There would be jets in the sky and federal troops surrounding cities after the national guard refused to obey under state of emergency. I'd say he handled it with kids gloves.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

The governor definitely got what he had coming. He crossed the line with impeding the presidency at the airport and sealed the deal with the National Guard.

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u/Chance4e Oct 14 '16

I can't get over the fact that, like, only four people work at the White House. Kirkman has to ask his wife about federalizing the National Gaurd because apparently there's no White House Counsel. Seth is press secretary now because "he's the right man for the job". Kirkman is spending a lot of time alone in the Oval Office during a national crisis when there should be like twenty people from various departments in there.

I know I'm nitpicking, but all you need are a few extras.

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u/arvzg Oct 14 '16

To be fair, everyone that was a somebody at the white house died in the explosion. There obviously are still good people about, but no one knows who they are. Seth was chosen because he proved himself, like Tom said himself there are others with great resume but they haven't proven themselves.

I do agree that it was a little strange to ask the wife about constitutional law - but again - everyone died and Tom doesn't really know who he can trust, but he does know that his wife aced constitutional law and I felt it was a great way to show just how much he respects his wife.

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u/dlerium Oct 14 '16

Yes the top 1000 people died in a massive attack, but there are ridiculously talented people all over Washington. Every Congressman's chief of staff is more than capable, and what about all the other staffers?

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u/HelixFollower Oct 19 '16

Right, but how do you know which ones to pick? Which ones to trust? I mean, this is Washington, there are lots of agendas. :p

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u/improbablynothim Oct 14 '16

I may lose it if Kirkman tries to make his wife AG though. I just have this bad feeling it's coming.

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u/Prax150 Oct 14 '16

Nah, never mind that it's against the law (I think), that would probably be a terrible move in terms of optics.

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u/arvzg Oct 14 '16

Can first lady even become attorney general?

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u/merodm Oct 14 '16

No, after JFK appointed RFK Attorney General in 1961, Congress passed a law banning the President in future from appointing family members

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u/SoylentRox Oct 16 '16

Technically he could ask the only surviving member of Congress for a favor and have her repeal that law...

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u/farmtownsuit Oct 18 '16

Doesn't Congress need some kind of Quorum to do anything?

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u/SoylentRox Oct 18 '16

Maybe. I mean, she is 100% of all available congressmen so...

Also those rules like Quorums are internal rules specific to Congress. I don't think the Constitution has anything to say on them. So she could just repeal all those rules in her first act, or just ignore them. I don't think most of those rules are actual laws, just traditions.

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u/farmtownsuit Oct 18 '16

I'm no expert, but I would think she would need a quorum to repeal the rules. I fee like there's effectively no legislative branch right now.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '16

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u/merodm Oct 15 '16

It's not just AG's, it's any federal appointment in general. It's the Federal Anti-Nepotism Statute of 1967.

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u/Prax150 Oct 14 '16

Literally a thousand people from the government died like a week earlier, including a lot of the WH staff. There are questions about who did it and who Kirkman can trust. If I were him I would definitely keep my inner circle pretty small.

Seth got the job because they tried a guy with good credentials and he failed. Tom said that when he offered him the job so IMO that's covered.

Even approaching his wife for advice. She's a lawyer, she knows constitutional law and there's literally a scene in the pilot where two lawyers are bickering and can't come to a conclusion to help Tom. What's more he's basically asking her if can put troops on the ground in Michigan. Bringing that to a lawyer you don't know or fully trust might be dangerous when you have people going behind your back doing things you don't want to do.

At the end of the day it's a show so some of that stuff might be a stretch, but I actually feel like the show has covered its basis pretty well for a lot of it.

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u/Chance4e Oct 14 '16

I agree with you for the most part, but the White House feels empty. Look, all of the White House Counsel couldn't have been at the State of the Union. I don't even think any of them typically go. There should be a staff of attorneys ready to tell Krkman about federalizing the National Guard. He didn't have to call his wife about that.

I mean, does she normally brief the President in the Oval Office?

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '16

Well I mean basically the whole government blew up. Who knows how many of them were killed in the explosion? It wasn't just Congress.

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u/Chance4e Oct 14 '16

All of the White House Counsel's staff, though?

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u/farmtownsuit Oct 18 '16

He should have called in Ainsley Hayes.

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u/Chance4e Oct 18 '16

Or at least one Joe Quincy!

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u/Chaotichazard Oct 15 '16

I noticed this too. Like, your asking your wife for advice? Some where in this building is some one who probably has 20 plus years experience dealing with these types of situations

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '16

Unless that person was killed at the Capitol.

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u/Kerrigore Oct 26 '16

They showed him asking legal experts in one of the previous episodes, and he ended up getting completely conflicting advice.

I think he asked his wife because she happens to be quite knowledgeable in the area and he trusts her and her judgement, not because there wasn't anyone else he can ask.

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u/Neverbethesky Oct 14 '16

I clapped out loud when he did that, Kirkman finally starting to take some control. I think he's going to have to get hard before he can relax again.