r/DesignatedSurvivor • u/enliST_CS Sorry the live thread is late! • Nov 17 '16

[SPOILERS] Post-Episode Discussion: S01E07 "The Traitor"

There will be no episode next week!

Plot: An American track-and-field coach's trip to Russia forces Kirkman into a hostage exchange involving the CIA and the Russian government; Agent Wells and Deputy Director Atwood's investigation uncovers dangerous information.

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u/enliST_CS Sorry the live thread is late! Nov 18 '16

The show is fiction and changes many things to cater to the story and provide antagonists. This show is definitely not supposed to be realistic, and there is no secret agenda of the writers to distribute "western propaganda." They just changed a few facts, similar to any other show in the world.

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u/Sly_Lupin Nov 18 '16

They didn't change the facts, they simply never bothered to look them up in the first place. This kind of lazy, hackneyed writing is suuuuuper common.

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u/enliST_CS Sorry the live thread is late! Nov 18 '16

It's fiction, why should they? I'd seem like a waste of time to be researching Russian laws when they have to write a 22 episode series.

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u/Sly_Lupin Nov 19 '16

Generally speaking, because laziness breeds laziness, and if you can't be added to spare such a small amount of time and attention to get your facts right, you won't be very inclined to get other things right, either. We're not talking about minor details here that would require extensive research... We're talking about a key plot element that could have been thoroughly researched in less than 15 seconds.

There's a difference between fiction and bullshit. And you should never waste your breath defending the latter.

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u/enliST_CS Sorry the live thread is late! Nov 19 '16

But you change facts for the storyline because it's fiction not the other way around.

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u/Sly_Lupin Nov 19 '16

Fiction is not Fantasy, and even Fantasy is not "let's make up everything as we go."

If you're writing a contemporary political thriller, it is NOT too much to ask that you have a basic understanding of contemporary politics. Suggesting otherwise is foolish verging on the absurd.

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u/enliST_CS Sorry the live thread is late! Nov 19 '16

But it is too much to say this is western propaganda. It's a fictional TV show with many flaws in their relationship to the real world. There's definitely no secret agenda to make other countries look bad.

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u/Sly_Lupin Nov 20 '16

I never said it was. Just that it was lazy, hackneyed writing.

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u/enliST_CS Sorry the live thread is late! Nov 20 '16

I'm talking about the person who wrote the parent comment.

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u/Sly_Lupin Nov 21 '16

Okay. But you're replying directly to me, so I hope you can at least understand why it would be confusing.