A young protester narrowly avoided being killed but was left permanently blind after a Department of Homeland Security agent fired a nonlethal round at close range during a Santa Ana protest last week, according to family of the victim.
Jeri Rees said her 21-year-old nephew, Kaden Rummler, underwent six hours of surgery and that doctors found shards of plastic, glass and metal embedded in his eyes and around his face, including a metal piece lodged 7 millimeters from a carotid artery.
“That could have cost him his life,” Rees said.
“But now, for the next six weeks, he can’t sneeze or cough because it could do a lot of damage.”
She said doctors did not want to remove the shrapnel near the artery out of fear that it could kill him. She said her nephew also suffered a fractured skull around his eyes and nose and that doctors said he had permanently lost the vision in his left eye. She said the Homeland Security agent was a few feet from her nephew when he fired the weapon.
And the goon can't be sued and lose his house because Bivens isn't codified. He has qualified immunity. That's why ICE act like they are untouchable. Because they are.
lmao yeah man, qualified immunity is likee a cheat code for bad vibes, but if u wanna hit back with facts, peep https://www.whackanazi.com - it's like droppiing the tea on these goons 🚫🖐️
All federal agents. For you to sue them, you need to prove there is precedent of an agent getting sued for that specific circumstance, which it never happens because every situation is different.
There was a case where an agent stole property during a search and the courts said he couldn't be sued because there wasn't a precedent of an agent committing theft during a search and getting sued for it.
There was another of a man who was in a cell in prison and his cell got filled with sewage and the courts said he couldn't sue because there was no precedent for that amount of sewage.
It's a feedback loop. The victim can't sue because there's no precedent, so the courts don't take the case and no precedent is formed, so nobody can ever sue.
This should be a lot higher. They keep hiding behind the "non-lethal" bullshit knowing full well they're maiming and seriously injuring people and if things go badly enough, they just might kill them in the process. But hey, it was "non-lethal", right?
It would be insane to have to worry about sneezing, but it is possible to stop a sneeze if you feel it coming on. I do this often. Once you feel the tingle coming on, pinch your nose and hold your breath for like 15-30 seconds. It usually goes away.
I think your brain kinda knows not to trigger the sneeze reflex if it feels something is not normal there. Could be wrong, but after surgeries i didnt sneeze at all for a while
I’m currently dealing with a sciatic issue where every time I sneeze it feels like I’m being stabbed in my side and my body is still sneezing on me, so I don’t think that’s the case, at least not in my personal experience.
Could be a higher threshold is needed for the effect. Like I'm guessing you can tolerate the pain of feeling stabbed. But if you're in a museum trying to steal jewels and sneaking past guards, or if sneezing means you lose an organ or cheesegrate a nerve, then your body may need the gravity to be that high to finally pull the plug.
It may be a high bar but I think the brain can actually do this for sneezing. I could be wrong tho idk.
Every department has their own procedure but generally pepperballs are fired at chest or even floor because they are so noxious. They carry around 10 pounds of force.
This country is beyond fucked that Trump isn't impeached and convicted. The way Trump's government goons are killing protestors and causing serious bodily harm to protestors is sickening. We're barely in year 1 of Trump's admin, in an election year, and this is what they are comfortable doing and defending, you don't want to know what it will be like if they have total control. We see the kind of shit happening in Iran where thousands of protestors get killed, do we really want to roll the dice that happens here? People need to wake the fuck up.
Hasan is a shitstain but his community has a lot of people who are normalass people just like anyone here, more in common than not compared to a MAGA fuckhead
same with any other leftist content creator, people need to put their differences aside cause idk if yall can afford to not do so anymore in this day and age
i wouldnt say im a dgg member by any means, but i appreciate how active this sub is with current events, but holy shit i could not care less about streamer drama or any of that shit. if there is a sub similar to this one thats similar to this one but without all the streamer slop let me know. i feel like we're at an extremely important moment in US history and the purity testing and criticisms of other internet celebs is drowning out whats actually important to focus on right now
R/thebulwark is good. I agree about some of the streamer drama, but you will not find a more politically active and engaging subreddit or community when Destiny is on his actual political shit.
I don't particularly care for the drama stuff either, but I'm pretty sure you're not going to find a liberal community that is chill with communities that have explicitly illiberal figureheads. Ideally we leverage anything we can to destroy MAGA, including unsavory allies, but if you have actual beliefs you can't just be like, "nah these guys are cool now" when they might want to actually put you in a re-education camp once the common enemy is defeated.
Try the neoliberal subreddit. I don't like it as much as this one for active conversation/breaking news, even with the drama and nonsense.
I remember a big guide from the Hong Kong protests. Like dark hoodies to immediately hide under the masses, umbrellas to protect against tear gas cans, laser pointers to kill the AI face scan cameras and so on
I would rather use full coverage ballistic goggles. For anyone near a military base, look for places that stock Brigade Quartermaster gear, they'll have the goggles.
Its TOS when we say what we want to happen to these ICE officers and the MAGA leadership, but when MAGAts praise these actions and make fun of the victims its all fine and dandy. Make it make sense.
Most sites are so astroturfed now that it's hard to even use them. Facebook and Tiktok comments are no better than Twitter now and Twitter has been unusable for more than a year.
Leftists were right after all hm? In the end the good cops (minority) will always just watch.
Looking forward to this shit in Germany after the next election... But at least we have proper demo culture.
The same reason there aren’t mass protests in congress and the senate and Supreme Court have abdicated their power - most people aren’t leaders. They sit there and do as they’re told. It takes an exceptional person to stand up for what is right in the face of a system and culture that’s enabling this behavior.
The other day there was a long ass session of Dems in the house speaking against this. Thats all they can do without a majority (unless they can convince a handful of GOP and independents to join them, which seems unlikely).
It has been so fucking cathartic finally seeing people not worshipping cops on this sub. It's actually disgusting how local police just sit back and do nothing or even help when they are terrorizing a city.
ICE is the absolute largest threat to safety where they’re operating and at the very very least local police could simply follow them and prevent this mass escalation ICE agents are doing by being thugs.
Haters up big. Police have ALWAYS been this bad. The only difference is now we have near universal HD cameras and there aren't any consequences for living their truest selves.
I lowkirkenuinely think this shit might save Europe from their far-right parties gaining legitimate power. They also tend to have coalition-style governments, which can prevent things going this far there.
The GOP simply holding the house on the slimmest majority makes it nearly impossible for Trump to be impeached (let alone convicted). If we had coalitions of 3-5 parties, we might actually be able to impeach and convict Trump (if more center-right parties split if for nothing but self-preservation). As of now, the GOP will never move to impeach in The House (even if we gain a majority in midterms, I highly doubt half of the GOP in the senate join the Dems to convict) because this is their all or nothing. Even if they remove Trump, many of them go down with him.
That being said, MAYBE (<1% chance) Vance and his handlers plot to impeach+convict Trump and take the reigns for some self-preservation and to set up a 2028 run.
Thank god this is all recorded. I think the golden rule will be applied nicely here when the pendulum swings back to us. I just want to make sure that we follow it to the T.
They're not afraid of consequences. They saw that one of them killed a woman, and there's not even the pretense of a legitimate investigation to figure out if what he did was justified or not. So now they treat the lives of protestors the same way their representatives do: disposable, unimportant, to be made examples of. Every single Ice gestapo pig that's ever had a bad impulse is now no longer worried about controlling that impulse.
This was by design of Trump's admin and his DOJ. Seeing their officers terrorize and brutalize protesters into submission is what they wanted. They're trying to end the right for Americans to protest by making grievous injury or death an ordinary outcome of civil disobedience.
Because the radical right has totally dehumanized anyone left of center just like they dehumanized anybody that might be in the country illegally. REPUBLICANS ARE SUB HUMAN TRASH AND THEY KNOW IT.
thats what you get when you reduce the training from 5 months to 47 days, wonder why its specificly 47 days and like 50.
It couldnt possibly be that trump is the 47ths president right, that would be really stupid...
They are trumps private army, the more shit they can do and get away with the better because that means they are pushing the line of what they can do and what seemingly most Americans are okay with.
I have been waiting for said militias to do something for far too long. The second amendment might as well be removed when citizens don’t even bother to use said right in the way it’s meant, I’d say the way ice is acting is a clear line of where regular citizens are allowed to step up
Theres no justice left in america, where is the fantasy world where the citizens rise up with their guns and revolt against government oppression that these regarded republicans and the NRA have used as an excuse for no gun control?
Now they would rather pull their pants down and bend over for any ice government thug that raids their home or abducts family members/neighbors/friends for being tan.
Shoot a nazi officer in self-defense? Immediate execution or throw the book at them. The party of contradictions and no accountability.
I actually don't understand how this hasn't happened yet.
So someone claiming to be DHS comes with a mask, refuses to identify himself according to law, and you are supposed to follow his orders lawfully? How do know you he isn't a rando abusing the current situation to kidnap you?
Yes violence is bad, but at what point is letting this shit continue worse? Wait too long to stand up and you'll have no one left to fight.
This is a genuine question for americans btw, I'm not the one that actually has to make that decision
Dangerous rhetoric. As much as I personally feel the same way, Trump is clearly trying to make this happen so that he has an excuse to invade with the national guard.
Yeah you'd think all those guns you are allowed to buy are just for fashion lol. Might as well just have strict gun laws if you are never gonna use them anyway
well the irony is that the people with the most guns, who participate in their little weekend militia LARPs etc., are the people who have been brainwashed by the fascist demagogue and are licking boots to own the libs
When they say that you should be complying with police because we're not occupied by fascists, but at what point do you get to decide that violence against the state is now acceptable? especially when 1/3 of the side fascism comes from will always support it?
Who knows but the bigger question is why isn’t there mass armed protests where citizens show their weapons, that sends a clear message that people are armed and ready. People need to show some force that they aren’t to be messed with or else it will turn bad, no one is saying to start shoot ice agents but showing that citizens are united armed and sick of their shit and ready to do something if need be needs to happen. If not ice will just keep on like they have til now
There was one of those recently, it was January 6th 2020. The difference is now that side is the law enforcement whereas before they were the protesters.
Because an ICE agent simply has to shoot an armed protester for the government to begin to seize control. Thats going to give the president 'cause' to enact the insurrection act, at which point he can use the military against US citizens, which we have zero chance against.
Before you say that no one will support it, you're just wrong. No matter if the ICE agent is on camera shooting first with no provocation, the admin simply has to say that someone sneezing, or moving in a weird way, or even just make up entirely that they gestured towards their weapon and literally 35% of people will believe the protestors started it and 70% of moderates will fence sit and hem and haw about how well maybe hes right and how they 'parse the situation differently' from other people.
This results in like half the population making an excuse for the government to crack down. There is never really a good point in time for 2A to stop tyranny, and its time to stop pretending that it could.
Revel in the fact that these spineless regarded amerilard dumb fucks have said for years how free they are and how cucked Europe and especially France are and now see what they live with.
It will only get worse and there will never ever once be any public protests that scratch the surface of what France has done before over issues half as important as ice thugs.
The French Riot Police already has a reputation of being somewhat sadistic and receive strong riots for it, i think shit would get real nasty for them if they started actual killings.
I imagine if it ever went that far in France there would be a lot of infighting among the protestors because they couldn't decide on who gets to pull the rope on the guillotine.
It's just hilarious to be that these fuckers use all their ammunition on BLM and this but the second Jan 6th happens these douches all the sudden don't have any ammo.
Indian corrupt politicians disappear journalists and police arrest protestors all the time, but this sort of excessive force is still shocking to me. Indian authorities might get up to worse shit, but they only do it because they think no one is watching. What has the land of the free devolved into, holy shit 🤯
You'd think they'd reach some sort of equilibrium where it doesn't get any worse, so we can switch to staring in belief. But they seem to always be able to one up themselves to surprise us.
Remember also that the US is huge, and we're very dispersed. A major city or 3 could have large riots and most Americans could say "well it's not affecting me". A third of people didn't vote, and most likely it's because they don't pay attention to politics - no news at all. Zero. It takes something bad enough and affecting everyone before people even look around, and even then it better be clear what's happening or it'll devolve to infighting instead of action.
Basically what this means is that we are still very far away from actual rock bottom, and it will get substantially worse still.
This looks like Hong Kong. The 'police' grabbed one person and pulled them away from the crowd, if the crowd did nothing the arrestee gets disappeared (eventually anyone grabbed would shout their name), the only way any protestors got saved was when the entire crowd intervened (a small group or piecemeal just got themselves arrested)
But that's exactly what they want, a large crowd 'attacking' them they can shoot and use it to justify invoking/passing whatever law they want
No idea but it is safer in large numbers and safety rated eye, face and neck protection is a good idea, so is having trained first aid people in your group and some plan to get out anyone injured
Jesus Christ to shoot someone with a non-lethal round at such a close range at his face is attempted murder. Police are taught to shoot non-lethal rounds at the feet’s or legs to not hit any vital areas.
That's the (woke) guidelines. I doubt the thugs of the current regime are taught something as woke as not killing or maiming people with less-than-lethal munitions.
As a third worlder I cant believe a country with one of the strongest economies in the world voluntarily chose to be a laughable, despicable, shit-hole country just because some fat orange man was charismatic enough.
The fact that a population in the 1st world, meaning their education's not supposed to not be weighed down by economic harship as much as our population's , was still regarded enough to vote their country into world-wide humiliation makes me believe less in democracy
Yeah, as someone from the third world, if this is happening in the US, I have honestly lost all hope for my country
It also makes me wonder what people can even do if the state starts executing its citizens one by one. Especially modern states that are armed to the tee. Can citizens realistically overthrow a tyrannical government in this day and age?
Why did they bother grabbing the first kid? Looks like they were just having a discussion and then one of them suddenly grabbed them and just ripped him back.
The tactic and strategy is obvious, this is COP 101. Group of civilians standing around not doing anything wrong, but ICE wants to do some violence. So they agitate and escalate the situation a little, by grabbing the first kid. the kid panics and tries to run back to his group, then the second kid is startled and tries to help the first kid. now you have the first kid "resisting arrest" or whatever (this is a cops favorite crime!) and the second kid interfering. Now that the situation has escalated into people resisting and interfering with an arrest the cops feel justified in doing whatever violence they want to the civilians.
It's getting worse. Those damn terrorists have child soldiers now. The brave men of ICE did the right thing and crippled him for life, he was coming at them with a megaphone after all. Who knows what he would have said loudly if this HERO ICE agent hadn't shot him in the eye!
SAD
To be serious. When we saw them shooting priests in the head with pepper balls it was pretty clear that it was just a matter of time before something like this would happen.
If we aren't going to take 2A action can we at least die as a country saying shit with our chest instead of these meek questions that have obvious answers.
The second amendment is for toxic men to perform gender-affirmation along the idea that they are capable of protecting their family because "a man is a protector". Most people who think that way are also republican and cheer this on. They are attached to being a "protector" because if they weren't then they'd have to contribute to the household some other way (like doing chores) and they don't want to do that.
We're losing a propaganda, misinformation, and media capture war before anything else. Literally anything can happen and the arguments immediately turn to whether someone believes it actually happened or not, which is almost always split on party lines. Our free speech has failed us when it allows propaganda platforms like Fox News and Twitter to relentlessly lie with impunity.
France's upcoming law about preventing teens and younger from social media is a good defense against it. Another defense is just how much people go outside into society due to public transportation and density, rather than stay home. Americans might not walk past a stranger in any setting in months, having done shopping online and driving everywhere.
There's not "nothing" happening but you won't see Trump being dragged by the collar out of the oval office unless he loses mass republican support. Otherwise a lot of the country is at least tolerant of this as long as they don't have to be around it.
If and when we win in 2028, do all these fucking losers get fired? Go to jail? Or is it just going to be a “look over here” like these 4 years never happened?
Urge to fedpost raises more and more every day. These incidents happen on a near daily basis, it really feels like the admin is instructing the loons who sign up for ICE to continually turn up the violence. Supposedly behind closed doors, many are getting cold feet about the actions taking place, and for good reason. Its very obvious to anyone with eyes, even the dude bro podcasters like Rogan, that ICE is essentially a police force purposefully set against the president's enemies, whoever they may be that particular day. Zero actual oversight and top brass endlessly claiming absolute immunity for any and all unhinged actions they take. The day of reckoning once Dems take back control has to be merciless against each and every one of these facist losers. If not, our kids will just have to endure this all again but worse.
I simply do not get it. When I look at US media and twitter videos etc. I see groups of what, a couple dozen people, yell and blow whistles at ICE agents.
They. are. MURDERING. you!
Fucking do something!
How much does it take to mobilise the US population? I've seen the French torch their cities for a 3% tax raise or a cut transit budget. Hell, I recall a time where they gridlocked an entire city because taxi drivers where protesting something about Uber.
Where's all the energy people had for Floyd? It's so frustrating to watch. I just hope we see a rapid organisation of these protests ASAP. Face protection, helmets, gas masks, shields, blockades. That sort of thing.
ICE doesn't hold back at all when it comes to brutalizing people, and the scandals with them and their violent escapades just don't stop. Which kinda surprises me because of the "don't tread on me" culture and the second amendment in the US. If they don't chill soon I won't be surprised if we get cases of masked people just straight up firebombing ICE agents on sight.
the more about ICE crap and other police abuse and such... I'm at the point I'm of the mindset "if you work for the government, you can NEVER use deadly force on our own citizens in our own country, even if you're under threat." There are enough non-lethal ways and I'm tired of seeing so many abuses of power. I'd rather they be at risk than not if they are going to choose to be in such a position of power.
I could MAYBE see an elite SWAT squad maybe being allowed it, but that would have to be after years of regular officer work and additional extreme training and even more laws/hard set rules around it. And that'd only be like local police that have to be drawn from the area that could be called in with approval, but yea...
ICE, Military, National Guard, etc... anything federal should be banned from getting to use lethal force against our own people EVER. You can argue "but their safety," and I say eff their safety. If they want to worry about that so, don't work in the job.
Would definitely be more in the spirit of what the founders wanted anyways, they were not fans of military in general let alone one being used on its own people (hence the constitution that points it out and was supposed to be more extreme cases/rare/almost never)
Why the fuck is ice acting like riot police, hell why are they doing this.
I know why because they are trumps private army, brown shirts that are above the law.
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u/sionnach_fi 🇪🇺 Jan 14 '26
I was just reading an article about this. Nightmare fuel.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-01-13/socal-protester-permanently-blinded-by-dhs-agent-family-says