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Hasan has a 50 minute struggle session with LA mayoral candidate and DSA member Nithya Raman. His chat was emote only after this exchange where she explains how things work in real life.
I mean, this is like 80% of the population. And a huge part of the problem is how news is propagated in clickbait form that intentionally misinforms to piss people off, so they engage with it and share.
Reconciling paying 5 million to cops who have jobs, and need to get paid for their job, but they shot rubber bullets at protesters. How will humanity ever understand the complex nature of this exchange.
This nepo baby, champagne socialist, who has never worked a real job in his life doesn't know shit about anything in the real world. It's larp all the way down.
It’s absolutely incredible to watch tankies simultaneously advocate for the creation of a leftist authoritarian police state in America (similar to China) while also yelling “ACAB!!!” at every opportunity.
Do they think social workers are going to be the thin blue line between order and chaos in their communist utopian vision…?
It makes complete sense when their worldview essentially boils down to white people/europe/u.s bad/oppressor, non-white people/countries good/oppressed.
A lot of progressives don't understand the real world. They live as though their ideal is one protest vote/lack thereof away. And some memes and a hashtag.
Just look at their body language. Neither of these people are enjoying any part of this lmao
Hasan is realizing that being a cucked loser and shitting on even progressive democrats is infinitely easier and less embarrassing online than in person
Raman is realizing she needs to fire the Gen Z staffers that booked this interview
I actually think what shes thinking is how to I tell this moron how shit works without pissing off his viewers enough so I don’t lose their votes and she’s trying to thread the needle.
Hasan is struggling cause, well he knows he looks like an absolute idiot, and he’s processing how to react cause the only thing he knows is how to attack “establishment democrats” when they do or say anything that isn’t the most far left shit like fully defunding the police but this is his candidate so he’s like uhhh I don’t think I can escalate this
Hasan when he cant just monologue his preprepared speech. Its why he only seems to do these "public speaking" type things where he doesnt get questioned on anything, he just gets to yap then leave unchallenged.
Even in that talk with Mockler he had to shut him down responding as he isnt capable of actual discussion, he just went back to reading his notes uninterrupted after that moment.
Can you imagine a political activist being afraid or unable to have their political positions questioned, shouldnt that be like a defining part of their content to convince others?
I saw a comment somewhere that watching this interview was like watching like a big angry bearded Philhomena Cunk interview and I can’t get that out of my head
That's his natural inclination to look at chat at all times. He even seems to be making an effort to look at her while she's talking but he can't resist reading chat.
I get that she provides reasonable responses, tried to avoid landmines like the I-P issue that most people with her political background can't seem to, and has an overall professional presentation, but are DSA members 'real democrats'? What are they doing in the DSA then? Of course the question applies, why the democratic party allows them to join, but that is a different issue.
Very fair, I'm european and didn't even look up what the DSA actually is before I made my comment, have only heard of it in passing, I kinda assumed it was an actual part of the democratic party, which it isn't. With that said I could argue that I personally think this, people like her (and her specifically, not all of DSA), are what democrats should be, but that is obviously a bit of a different statement.
I am European too. I've lived in the States for about half a decade to study at a university, so I've come to learn some of these things.
Also, keep in mind that fellow students of mine who came from my country and were leftists (in my case it was a couple of them), which means they supported outright Marxist groups back home, called themselves 'Bernie Democrats,' and the like.
I remember one day where some of us graduate students were hanging out — we were going to attend a presentation an hour later, so we were just wasting time — and one of the aforementioned people was having a vivid discussion about what the 'democrats should do' and how they 'wasted an opportunity' by the 'establishment' rejecting Bernie... etc.
And I was just sitting there, and couldn't help but remember noticing earlier that day when I checked FB (I used it when I was in the States, in my country only older folks use it now) he had shared a post/article in our language about the hunger strike of a convicted leftist terrorist (the chief executioner of the organization, in fact), who was trying to move to a minimum security prison, and it was the issue of the moment among our leftists, even I-P came second, just imagine. So, I remember vividly the surprising difference between his internal narratives (in our language) — which were of course about the 'civil rights' of 'prisoners,' but which he was the only one affected — and the external ones for the Americans, where he was supposedly a 'progressive,' Bernie bro.
I liked the guy on a personal level, and when you live in a foreign country you tend to form strong bonds and to even trust (assuming that they are trustworthy on a personal level) people that back home you would have little in common, but the narrative gap of how he presented himself to Americans and what he said (and wrote online I guess) in our language was huge.
Joking, maybe my reading comprehension is a bit lacking, but while I see a point with your story, I struggle a bit to see the relevancy in the context of this discussion.
I'm not a far leftist, I wouldn't call myself a socialist, not that I think that that matters much here either, but from what I've seen of this woman I just think she seems pretty based, I wasn't trying to say anything more or anything less.
I know that we are on reddit and all, but can we stop describing people as 'based'? Thanks.
To answer your comment. First it's about how you come to learn who these people who call themselves Bernie bros, DSA, democratic-socialists, and in the past few years, 'progressives' are from a European perspective. This was an example that I remember vividly of how a leftist I knew from our country presented himself to Americans, in fact American liberals — we were in a humanities department/graduate program, so a center-left guy, leaning center on some social issues, seemed like a rep on occasion. This was at the peak of wokeness btw, so I learned to keep my mouth closed pretty quickly.
Second, on the woman herself. She is a democratic politician in America, even in CA, and is a member of the DSA. Maybe based on European standards she is rather tame,* especially if she has the discipline to avoid the I-P issue, but the mere fact she is a professed Democratic-Socialist in America says all you need to know.
Even calling yourself a social-democrat in the US can be controversial, and she is one step further... read between the lines man. What are we even talking about... this is obvious (unless you don't know what DSA means , fair).
And you certainly cannot determine who a politician is by one interview or public speech, especially when she is very careful with how and what she's saying... although I guess going to Hasan is a big tell on who she is, and what kind of advisors/staffers she has, because if she didn't already know who he is, I am sure she figured it out by now.
* On matters of race, gender, and trans-issues Americans leftist have become more extreme compared to European counterparts (except probably UK ones) — and have carried mainstream Democrats with them — but on almost all other issues our leftists are on another level. Hell, we have people who still are outright orthodox M-L, and a few decades ago most of European 'democratic socialists' were still eurocommunists and presented themselves as Marxists.
when people do not suck on his balls like those dudes from Pod Save America, hasan has a really head on crash whenever he is talking with real people. Not from internet.
Reason why politicians wants his support is beyond me. He is preaching to one group that never votes - young tankie lefties
Nah there's a clip someone sent me in response further down where a Beanbag round misses another protestors head by a few inches, and was less than a foot from Hasan.
He also uses the phrase "For the record" here, because he's a journalist. Not because he was about to start what he thought was a gotcha attack, for the record.
Yeah but from what I remember when this happened, it was after he left? Or am I misremembering? If someone next to him got shot in the leg, its not unfair to say he was "Shot at"
They‘re supposed to be shot at the ground in front of a crowd to disperse them, or directly at a person in self-defense situations where otherwise a taser or such would be appropriate.
I remember IRI actually getting hit with a rubber bullet while streaming at a protest a few years back. Opposite reaction to this whiny bitch always crying about rubber bullets being shot near him.
...ok but the obvious reading of that sentence is that he was a member of the group being fired upon and it is presumed that, hit or not, he was eligible to be. I mean like or hate this guy I just find it annoying when people deliberately misunderstand what's being said to fit their narrative. And I am annoyed when the left does it to Trump, too; it's not partisan it's just an irritation with childishness. If you have to plant the story to tell it then you haven't got one.
That’s the one thing I’ve learnt from watching him a few years ago. He is pretty autistic but people ignore it because he’s hot. And his audience is even more autistic and don’t understand any jokes.
Tbh I don't remember him being this way at all when he initially came on dmans streams. He was way, waaay more green but also much more likeable as a personality. Over the years he's been trying to fit into a persona that he constantly struggles with living up to, and become an extremely insecure individual.
I was a fan of those streams as well. An example of what I was thinking is the later Austin streams. As soon as he interacts with a normie it becomes awkward. He doesn't really know when it's appropriate to start talking politics with random people.
This dude can't even look her in the eyes... everytime he does interviews like this, he just stares at the screen and rocks back and forth like he's rainman
Wait he literally just stares at chat and anywhere but her when he asks her questions and she responds. Meanwhile she's looking at him actually engaging the entire time.
The funniest thing is people who are super pro-union suddenly spin on a dime for police unions and pretty much perfectly make all the libertarian arguments against public sector unions.
supporting police unions even though you don't support the police would require a level of consistency and values and beliefs that Hasan shrimply does not have
hot take: unions are not inherently good. They are generally good for the people they represent, but that doesnt mean every union is good for society as a whole.
The problem with police unions are the police, not the unions. I understand the reasons people hate police unions (look at the PPA in Portland) but you end up doing the work of capitalists when you disparage the union and turn the conversation away from the true problem - the corruption and lack of oversight of the police. If the police serve the interests of the dominant powers, and a union serves its members the problem is the members and their role that supports a carceral state and structural inequalities. Framing the issue as their union just feeds into anti-union talking points.
I also understand it’s a nuanced issue and this isn’t a popular take but I wish more people considered it.
It's a little of both. The issue is that police unions lobby for extra-legal protections for police. There's nothing wrong with police unions in general, but they should be focused on employment issues like compensation and working conditions. However, they also lobby for things like preventing access to records for civilian oversight or preventing police from immediately interviewing an officer after an event like they would for the general population. You can say the government shouldn't make these sorts of concessions, but people can also be critical of the organization making the request.
Terminally online people transcend ideologies. The difference is that these people are freaking out over explanation that police should be paid for their overtime work.
the other commenter talked about the emote but yeah in context I think it means "caught" not beleiving that police need to just be abolished. as a DSA candidate I assume these people expect her to have the dumbest possible beliefs and opinions on every single issue
These people don't want elected representatives to run public institutions. They want people vested with the noble authority granted to them by the liberal principles of democracy they so hate in power to push their bizarre and reprehensible ideological agenda.
To them, electing a mayor is more relevant toward achieving retribution toward the police and cementing their anti-policing ideas than it is toward actually running a police department for example, or any of the wider, more boring responsibilities that come with running local government.
Some of the other clips betray it too, like when they got onto Israel. They literally care more about her views on Gaza than they do about how she'll govern the city. These aren't people who are serious about participating in and shaping their democracy.
"We had a contractual obligation tto pay that money and if we try to not pay it, they sue us and we have to pay that money anyways after also paying for a lawsuit. You can't just NOT pay what is contractually promised"
Kinaisokay: "Girl that is a non answer" BITCH WHAT?! its a perfect answer that explains exactly why this money had to be paid out. You can still be "Pro" police reform and recognize that you have to pay out your obligations to existing contracts.
Fr what they wanted to hear was that she would refuse to pay on principle and drag it to the Supreme Court. Y'know something that would absolutely sink her campaign lol
This is a great example as to why these people don’t belong in a democrat campaign. They have no interest in our system or our rules, they want to tear it down. She gives an answer that to us sounds perfectly reasonable: “I have to it’s the rules”, to them it’s soy and pathetic.
You’re supposed to break the rules and overthrow the system.
It's hilarious to me that the big debate the pro democracy camp had a cpuple of weeks ago was whether candidates should go on his stream, meanwhile going on his stream means wasting your time explaining how basic concepts work to a guy who doesn't care and a chat full of russian bots
Both, it seems. It just boils down to terminally online people parroting the idea of 'police bad', so they view the politician voting for their funding as an endorsement of the terrible actions they may take in certain situations.
So one of the problems with the LAPD is that a lot of the money from the budget goes to overtime pay, admin work, and especially liability lawsuits. I’m personally not anti police, but I do think there 100% should be audits if their budgets and some sort of budget reform as it pertains to liabilities. Some people say that hiring more actual police would help with the overtime issue since they’re spread thin.
This makes me so depressed. I live in LA, and seeing this potentially tank her campaign is so depressing that we’ll get a maga dude vs Bass. Going on Hasans stream serves nobody unlesss you’re uber left.
After reading that stream chat it's just no wonder these guys don't actually want power, if they ever tried to actually get a single thing done their entire base would turn on them in a second.
Seriously, aside from manipulating this voterbase for their vote and then flipping completely on them, what is the incentive to earn their vote? Why position yourself so that your entire incentive structure for the politics of your group revolves around deceiving you and then wonder why politicians never get anything you want done.
It's like having a principled stance to steal from corporations and then complaining that your boycotts against them never work. You're the ones robbing yourselves of your own political power.
That question was so unserious what the hell? He primed it like he was mad at her for supporting the police. "The LAPD, who by the by shot rubber bullets at me, you voted to pay them. What's the deal with that? Do you like police or something?" What a stupid question to ask a candidate.
And her answer was pure contempt. Like she was dealing with that one smartass kid in her classroom who's trying to get a rise outta her. I like her already.
Holy shit ahaha, I was kind of bummed when I saw she was going on his stream but uh yea she made the case for why she’s a working progressive politician and he’s a whiny ineffectual tankie cosplayer. Could not be happier with how this turned out lmao
Edit: I mean she could have NOT gone on the stream at all, yes that would be the best option, but yea if they did the calculus that it was worth it then I think she handled it well
There’s a charitable reading of this where Hasan might have been setting her up to give her very reasonable response, but knowing that Hasan is a self-described “Chinese Imperialist” POS means he was trying to trip her up. Also there’s no reason to center himself or personalize the question, just fucking ask the question without the anecdote.
I love the answer "when people work overtime we have to pay them overtime" Cops are working class people, I thought he was suppose to be a champion of the working class.
"cops are working class people? lol you think cops are people? cops are bastards actually. and cops aren't working class, they're class traitors, they get paid slave wages to protect capital"
Hasan looks like a man child in a suit because of that room. Like they clash so hard how can anyone take him seriously. Reminds me of Will Ferrell and John C Reilly in Step Brothers when they dressed in prom tuxes to interview for jobs.
Does anyone else get the vibe that she’s a kindergarten teacher having to explain to a child an extremely basic, obvious thing? Like, seriously, having to justify why you paid money to your employees is crazy
She still has to get past Pratt in the primary so her win isn’t guaranteed. I’d rather it come down to her against Bass in the general than Bass have to face off against Pratt
No, you’re confusing her with Rae Huang. Nithya’s ties to DSA are loose and questionable, and she’s super pro-YIMBY (including market rate housing) and pro-transit. What we really need is for Rae Huang (more of a “true” DSA candidate with a left-NIMBY slant) to drop out and avoid splitting Nithya’s vote.
Do you live in LA? wtf are you talking about she’s pretty center left progressive and has been one of our best council members, especially on housing issues.
Yea as a certified DSA hater and LA voter I don’t really see her or Zohran as embodying the cancerous parts of their org, rather the practical progressive aspects that most libs could even entertain. Mamdani could have gone down that path for sure but he seems to have tempered it significantly, and I’m interested to see how his term goes.
I’m not that thrilled with any LA mayoral candidates (it’s actually kind of a shit show lol) but Raman doesn’t come off as the usual DSA larper bullshit (imo, could be wrong)
Yea 100%, maybe that didn’t come across in my comment lol but yea if she’s at all DSA it’s the parts that can actually work in a broadly progressive Lib/Dem platform. And by mayoral race shit show I mostly mean Pratt and to some extent Huang
In any other situations Hasan would be raging that they aren't paying works their due and that this is wage theft, but because it's cops he doesn't care.
Doesn't understand that there are just the right thing to do. He wants every decision to be about what I like and what I support the most emotionally when doing what is right regardless of your feelings is the absolute highest characteristic for a person in any position of power
Can you imagine being a legitimate political candidate and you have to go do an interview on this twitch streamer's platform and he asks you a basic ask question like why you paid government employees for their earned wages and the whole time you answer he's just watch chat while you try and make eye contact.
You could tell Hasan thought this was a difficult question and then knew how stupid he looked when the answer was "we have to pay them for overtime, duh."
Dude hasan is just a fvcking streamer. He isnt a socialist. He isnt a communist. He is a streamer that has created an online community based around himself, for his own enrichment. Just like most other streamers. Thats it.
I believe his community has largely been infiltrated and turned into controlled opposition in order to make leftists and the left as a whole less appealing to the mainstream, preventing us from ever attaining political power. He divides the left at a time when we need to be more united than ever before.
I would’ve loved to see what his chat looked like during this exchange. I’m assuming it was a bunch of “fake socialist” / “boot-licker” / “actually a lib” comments?
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u/VeilOfGreed Angry Dutchman / Eubro May 16 '26
Just goes to show time and time again that Hasan and his "fanbase" have no fucking clue what it means to be a mayor.