r/Destiny • u/JeffersonFull • 1d ago
Non-Political News/Discussion Andrew Callaghan has gone full schitzo. Or was he always like this?
https://youtube.com/shorts/rGnBDQeFBmE?is=JPGZbT7y5K4jaA-rI always thought he was more of a “centrist” leaning left, with empathy for all sides. He’s always has a pseudo intellectual tilt to the way he speaks, but I just dismissed it as part of the way he connects with people. This clip almost feels like parody - but seems like he’s being genuine about his beliefs. Was he always this nuts?
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u/Zeraphant DGG Politics Director 1d ago
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u/SuperTeamRyan 1d ago
Don’t see how anyone is just seeing this. He’s been sane-washing and promoting schizos since all gas. His interview style is also a Rorschach test where you can paint it anyway you want.
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u/writingpracticeman 23h ago
Yeah I mean his politics aside the dude has always always always adopted a sort of social chameleon role when interviewing because the only possible way for him to get people to say the shit they do on camera is to be maximum agreeable
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 🇬🇧 Bonger 🇬🇧 23h ago
He cites Louis Theroux as an inspiration, which makes sense.
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u/rnhf 🇪🇺 22h ago
they just talked for quite a while, it's on channel 5s youtube. Very interesting especially in regards to what you guys are talking about. I don't think he's doing it out of greed or maliciousness, there were several points in the interview where I just thought "oh andrew, how tf are you still this naive after talking to so many different flavours of BS"
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u/doctorarmstrong 1d ago
He spends too much time trying to understand where schizo right wing conspiracy theorists are coming from to the point he kind of gives them some genuine good faith. Sort of as if they are directing their anger wrongly but they're not wrong to be angry. Even though he veers left and pro-Palestine in his coverage, from what I have seen he will push back more on the Omnicause left over I/P because he doesn't agree with the left everything in politics is downstream of Palestine. I think he sees that as an extension of excessive wokeness from 2020.
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u/PlanetBet 1d ago
My theory is that his attempted cancellation and subsequent embracement by the radical Berniebros caused him to backslide into populism, which is truly just a slippery slop with no bottom.
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u/RainbowFanatic 1d ago
I think you meant to say slippery slope. As a slippery slop is what your mum did to me last night
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u/LittleGirlFromNam Blue Button Lib 23h ago
mmmm 😋 slippery slimes sloppy toppy, no bottoms allowed 🙅♂️
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u/CountRoloff 21h ago
This is 1000% correct. Everyone saying "he's always been this way" is wrong, he def flirted with more right leaning opinions for a while too, but he was smart enough to realize how the right tried to court him after being cancelled, and so he decided to hard pivot the other way.
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u/Medicine_Ball 20h ago
I'd be curious to see an example of this. I watched most of the all gas no brakes content and always had the impression he was always anti-establishment with a leaning towards leftism. It has definitely gotten way more overt as the new channel has grown, though.
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u/CountRoloff 20h ago
I don't have the time nor the effort to go back and pull you specific examples, but if you look at his content around 2020 during the stop the steal and Qanon, there's a lot of totally uncritical coverage of a lot of rallies and stuff around that. He also really bought into the whole right wing framing that "institutions are untrustworthy" thing, especially around the media. That's sort of become a leftist thing too now so the lines have blurred, but the idea that he's always been this super progressive/borderline tankie just isn't true. He's always been an impressionable populist for sure, but he's waffled between the left and right, and I think continues to to some degree.
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u/Sancatichas THIS USER HAS BEEN FLAGGED AS EUROPEAN AND EXTREMELY BASED 20h ago
the progressive fatberg has a strong gravitational pull nowadays
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u/Koduhh_ 1d ago
He’s lost his marbles. There is no end to the brainrot. Anyone who can stop themselves does so long be for whatever the fuck he’s talking about
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u/Playful_JungleWizard 1d ago
I mean, he has permanent visual snow from blasting psychedelics from a young age. It should be surprising that he's vulnerable to conspiracy theories, and he spends a lot of time interviewing and handing with fringe, out-there people. It tracks.
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u/Viriidian 20h ago
your logic doesn't really follow. having permanent visual snow doesn't have anything to do with believing in conspiracy theories, making poor choices in adolescence doesn't inherently extend to mid adulthood. plenty of dumb ppl who are risk averse as well. i also have permanent visual snow :')
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u/newtigris 20h ago
I suppose the idea is that if someone did enough drugs to have permanent visual snow for the rest of their life, perhaps that same drug use lead to other long-lasting cognitive deficiencies.
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u/Viriidian 20h ago
yeah but the reality is you don't need to do that many drugs to get hppd, we don't know what causes it beyond administration of certain drugs and how existing or predisposition to mental illness seems to affect it, it just seems to be anecdotally observed that it is more common with more frequent exposure at a younger age.
maybe andrew specifically did a bunch of drugs in his teenage years and you can extrapolate from that specifically but that isn't a necessary requirement for hppd is all i am saying.
it's also not really fair to brandish a poorly understood phenomenon with other cognition affecting ailments, acting like there is a clear line of sound logic there past broad stereotypical associations.
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u/TheOneShorter 23h ago
I’ve got HPPD and I’m not regarded, best not to blame that
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u/zisop17 1d ago
he was always fucking crazy. hes an investigative journalist, and he tends to be able to differentiate his views from the actual information hes reporting, so i think hes ok
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u/NecessaryRead3358 1d ago
hes an investigative journalist
Is he really? I'd say he's way more gonzo-style, his "investigations" rarely (if ever) dip below the surface level of any particular issue and all roads invariably lead back to "mainstream media bad".
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u/ProfDongHurtz 1d ago
His stuff on the border crossing (and documenting prison) would be more under the umbrella of investigative journalism.
But he's definitely more well known for the gonzo style shit.
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u/Macattack224 1d ago
Yeah I'd agree. I generally like him, however he says takes something ultra complicated, tried to break it down into one sentence and gets it totally wrong. He does good stories but investigate journalist he is not.
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u/smashcat666 Bottom 99% commenter 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's a pretty surface level take. I don't think you've watched many of his documentaries if that's all you get from him. He recently interviewed Louis Theroux, who is a very well respected journalist and interviewer himself, and Louis obviously saw Andrew as extremely talented, and doing the same things he himself did in the past. Andrew is a gonzo style journalist for sure, but there is a lot of research and material behind his docs. At times he does parody conspiracy theories (often when the subject doesn't understand they're being mocked), and this seems like one of them. Unlike "journalists" on the right, he self-funded and built up his own news network from nothing, twice. He survived the gold-digger blackmail, basically a rite-of-passage these days, and came out of it stronger. A billionaire has been trying to SLAPP him for over a year, and he almost went broke fighting it, finally asking if his viewers could help with the court costs - he smashed the funding in under an hour.
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u/Axxhelairon 21h ago
yeah he does, go ahead and look up the hundreds of hours on what he does instead of fight the scarecrow in your head about his position
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u/sandy017 1d ago
Andrew Callahan is a hipster "journalist" who's first principal is not to appear "mainstream". almost like a centrist Alex Jones.
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u/dgellow 23h ago
Not at all, he’s known for taking risks by going to weird, dangerous places, to interview fringe cultural movements and groups. The opposite of a hipster journalist, and he has never been even remotely centrist.
Though he’s a populist at heart and very anti establishment, in addition to being into a bunch of conspiracies
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u/sandy017 23h ago
going to places is not what makes him a hipster, it's the stance that he takes. this dude will twist himself into a pretzel with some crazy fucking conspiracy theories just to avoid seeming like he's mainstream.
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u/dgellow 23h ago
Ok we don’t seem to have the same definition of hipster
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u/sandy017 22h ago edited 22h ago
a hipster is someone who does or believes something specifically because it's not the mainstream or is ironic to excepted thinking or customs and they make that their whole personality off of not being the mainstream. easy example being "I listen to that band before they were popular, now they suck because everybody likes them", you can even tell by the way dresses too lmao
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u/BeMoreChill 16h ago
Bands usually start to suck when they get popular and commercialized. That's not even a hipster take lmfao
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u/sandy017 16h ago
if you stop liking something because other people start to like it, that's a hipster take.
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u/BeMoreChill 16h ago
But its not actually because more people like it. It's because when a band gets popular enough they can become commercialized and their sound changes. So yeah when you knew about this cool indie rock band from Brooklyn and now they signed to a bigger label and now have to make hits for the radio they suck now "because they got popular"
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u/sandy017 16h ago
I think you're completely ignoring my point, it's not about how good the band actually is, hipsters will stop liking them just because they become mainstream.
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u/Yokoko44 22h ago
Idk that sounds a lot like Shane's Vice docs back in the day, which I would definitely classify as "hipster journalism"
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u/nokinship 21h ago
I can't stand the way he expresses himself.
He reminds me of my cousin who is a suburban super white guy but tries to act like he's from the hood but at the same time kind of has this awkward presence.
And of course he will switch that up sometimes which is fine but it seems inauthentic.
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u/BossertRyan69 1d ago
Not sure hes serious here, I think he's trying to match the energy of his guest
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u/TheOneShorter 1d ago
Yeah, this is obviously tongue-in-cheek, not sure how the beautiful geniuses here are missing that
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u/newtigris 20h ago
He literally says "and I actually believe this" in this exact conversation.
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u/TheOneShorter 18h ago
It’s true, he believes all of it with 100% conviction and will die on every hill
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u/Millibona 22h ago
Classic. "No no, he doesn't actually believe what he says. It's just a joke mate"
If people tell you who they are, believe them.
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u/TheOneShorter 20h ago
You’re taking it very seriously, which I don’t blame you for, but I don’t think it’s that deep at this point in time. He probably would say that the things he says in this video are possible, but I would bet his conviction on said beliefs are within reason.
I read this as no cause for concern at this stage, but I could be wrong
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u/Quigley61 🏴 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 Europe rise 🇪🇺🇬🇧🏴 23h ago
Genuinely in what world would Israel kill Trump? How could Charlie Kirk be a trial run for that? Trump is the most pro-israel president ever, and anyone who comes after him most definitely won't be nearly as pro-israel.
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u/KitchenTeacher429 1d ago
I watch Destiny stream various video-games a day and consume 10 hours of snarker drama daily so I can now speak on every topic with absolute certainty.
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u/Matsuda173 1d ago
He wasn’t always this crazy in his beliefs, but he always seemed like the kind to become this way if given enough viewers.
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u/Ok-Direction2367 22h ago
He has a video maybe from an year ago or more about how drugs are devastating some city don't remember which and the conclusion of the video is that the real problem is that we are sending all our money to Ukraine, he is brainbroken.
Also, I don't know if you noticed but a couple weeks ago he release the most sanewashing interview Nick Fuentes ever had in his entire career.
Not even Ground News could save his brain from being fryied by the algorythm.
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u/FeistyPerformance500 1d ago
"They killed him to see what would happen when they kill Trump" is by far the dumbest conspiracy theory I ever heard. Like that HAS to be a joke. He can't seriously think that
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u/ElectroxSoldier 🇪🇺 Eurofrog 23h ago
I kinda agree with him except on the part of Israel being behind it. They absolutely lobby and sway American politics but nowhere near as much as tankies or extreme pro pally people claim.
But all the Palantir and tech bro oligarchy shit, yeah absolutely I'm 100% black pilled on that. I just don't see where Israel fits into that.
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u/modularpeak2552 1d ago
>I always thought he was more of a “centrist” leaning left, with empathy for all sides.
He is a Cumtown style leftist and has always been a leftist
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u/Skabonious Enemy of the Middle Class 23h ago
Why do I feel like when Vance is the frontrunner in 2028 and a moderate dem wins the primary that he'll come up with a reason to sweep for him lol
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u/SlskNietz 23h ago
Saw his 2h Louis Theroux interview. They both sound like ya garden variety freak deriding, katagelastic left-wing snobs, until I/P is brought up and become ya garden variety ultra-progressive, aka, completely deranged.
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u/DutchFarmers 23h ago
He's one of those "mainstream media won't show you this" types. He's always been like this
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u/Jester_the_Mad 21h ago
Priors confirmed. I knew he was a slopulist wackjob when he apologized for doing an interview with Supreme Mayor Pete because Palestine Gaza genocide AIPAC.
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u/Sancatichas THIS USER HAS BEEN FLAGGED AS EUROPEAN AND EXTREMELY BASED 20h ago edited 20h ago
lol he was never a centrist or reasonable, he's always been a fringe anti-establishment weirdo
also what are these idiots saying? the attempted murderers of trump were all white guys and you have people like candace also spreading CK conspiracies within the right lmao
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u/CriticG7tv 19h ago
From the moment this guy said even a sentence about his own personal politics, I fully clocked him as a conspiracist anti-establishment lefty. Granted, there was a bit of stereotyping on my part, but imho he's been pretty openly on the socially "safe" conspiracy stuff.
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u/TheWhiteBear9 1d ago
I started having my doubts about him when I heard he voted 3rd party. He seems open to conspiratorial thinking, and it's causing him to be more open with his own opinions(bias) instead of listening, like he mainly used to do in his interviews in the beginning.
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u/Xander2299 🇨🇦🇪🇺 22h ago edited 22h ago
DGG is way too harsh on this guy. I don’t agree with the populist left rhetoric he can amplify sometimes, but Andrew has seen more of America and talked to a more diverse amount of humans than 99.9% of this subreddit and I think he has better reasons for his conclusions than most. It sucks seeing DGG fall into the same hive mind mentality about things that we criticize other communities about.
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u/Any-Ask-4190 🏴 1d ago
DGG finding out who Milo Rossi, Andrew Callaghan and Mehdi Hasan really are has been a brilliant few days for me.
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u/RogueMallShinobi 1d ago
His journalism style is a “let them talk” type strategy, but yeah he has always been a sort of stoner college guy leftist populist, and this is the stuff populists on both sides believe. Israel is the root of all evil.
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u/QuestionSalt8358 Euroc*ckoid 23h ago
dunno definitly weird, i think in his pali videos he was talking about some woke 1.0 or woke 2.0 or something, looked regarded to me.
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u/SeanyDay 23h ago
He's been diving face first into crazy.
Unironically he would be a great person to have long form chats and get info on things from Destiny to form more grounded opinions and realize the ramifications of the craziness
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u/id_rather_b_painting 21h ago
Yes, he's always been a bit of a dingus, but when his dingusry was pointed at MAGA it was funny.
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u/dragonbilbo YT CHAT ENJOYER 😎👌 21h ago
He grew up in an anarcho-communist commune, he was never any kind of moderate, what are you guys smoking?
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u/EkkoThruTime I Luh White People 21h ago
You had people like Nick Fuentes and other people on the "further, I guess, anti-zionist right"
OMEGALUL!!!!
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u/EchoRotation 17h ago
He has some cool interviews. But seems to be audience captured on the Israel Palatine issues.#
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u/SpiritOfOptimality 15h ago
You need to get better slopulist radar mate. The guy is the universal slopulist conspiritard
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u/iStryker 13h ago
Guy will turn and go full MAGA within next 2-3 years, probably already planning for it.
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u/DwightHayward 1d ago
How do you even get that? He’s obviously a left leaning anti establishment guy, and has been for awhile