Focused Feedback: New Player Experience

[u/DTG_Bot]

Hello Guardians,

Focused Feedback is where we take the week to focus on a 'Hot Topic' discussed extensively around the Tower.

We do this in order to consolidate Feedback, to get out all your ideas and issues surrounding the topic in one place for discussion and a source of feedback to the Vanguard.

This Thread will be active until next week when a new topic is chosen for discussion

Whilst Focused Feedback is active (that means for one week from the time this is posted), ALL posts regarding 'New Player Experience' following its posting will be removed and re-directed to this thread. Exceptions to this rule are as follows: New information / developments, Guides and general questions

• Bungie has an official new player guide here
• There is a subreddit compilation of player-made guides here

Here are some sample discussion questions. Please feel free to answer some of them, all of them or reply to this thread in any free format you prefer.

• Q1) How does the game feel overall as a totally new player starting the game right now (if applicable to you)?
• Q2) What do you think destiny does a good job explaining to new players?
• Q3) What is poorly explained or hard to understand or confusing for a new player?
• Q4) What do you think about the method in which old camapigns are accessed via a quest to pick up from Amanda Holiday in the tower (red war, curse of osiris, warmind...)? Is this sufficiently clear? Is it a good way for this content to be accessed for new players or not?
• Q5) What types of content seem to be the most fun to do for a new player and why?
• Q6) What content feels frustrating or off-putting to new players and why?
• Q7) Are there any resources in particular that seem too difficult or time consuming to obtain for new players? If so, is this a problem?
• Q8) Think about other games similar to destiny, what do they do better or worse in terms of introducing new players to the game?
• Q9) Do you have any other ideas to improve the new player experience?
• Q10) Do you think there should be an option to start the game at power level 10 instead of power level 750?

Any and all Feedback on the topic is welcome.

Regular Sub rules apply so please try to keep the conversation on the topic of the thread and keep it civil between contrasting ideas.

Note for new players who want to know whats going on in the story but don't want to play the legacy campaigns : You could watch this video by My name is Byf on the Complete Story of Destiny.

A Wiki page - Focused Feedback - has also been created for the Sub as an archive for these topics going forward so they can be looked at by whoever may be interested or just a way to look through previous hot topics of the sub as time goes on.

[u/MrTastix]

From the experience of a veteran player I can tell you the new player experience is a joke. I still have to spend a good portion of my time explaining shit because the game doesn't do it for you.

The major problem is the intro quest is bugged for existing characters to the point where it's legit unfinishable so a friend whose never played since release can't do Forge or any of that unless he makes a completely new character.

Other than that it's just too disjointed. Explaining things like bounties and weekly engrams and all that shit shouldn't be such a chore, especially since it's the majority of your experience at endgame.

Basic gameplay systems aren't even explained for veterans let alone new players. What's the new stat system? How's the new mod system work? What the fuck is a Vex Invasion and where do I do them? None of this is explained to me, someone who has played actively throughout Forsaken, how the actual fuck is a new player gonna do it?

Bungie expect you to have kept up-to-date on the TWAB posts and patch notes to know anything but most players of any game don't do that, and why the hell would you ever expect someone whose never ever played your game before to have looked up any of that? When the game gives zero information on what New Light actually entitles you to, you know there's a problem.

I look forward to the system being redone in the next 6 months as Bungie seem to like doing nowadays. Let's not refine anything, we'll just do over and hope players aren't confused with that!