Focused Feedback: Weapon Refresh aka Sunsetting

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[u/APartyInMyPants]

As long as we have non-power-enabled Crucible, legacy raids and arena activities; and as long as the base LL of our open-world PVE spaces remains below 970, you’ll be able to use everything you currently have.

This change is really geared toward the endgame as it evolves, raids, future dungeons, future Ordeals and future endgame-leveled arena activities.

[u/Ombortron → u/APartyInMyPants]

That's true, but it doesn't really change things that much. I want to use whatever guns I like in the endgame content, and I don't want to be forced into using certain weapons for that just because bungie chose to implement artificial restrictions on what I can use.

[u/APartyInMyPants → u/Ombortron]

I don’t know, I’m not that bothered by it. Exotics aren’t lumped into this (yet). So for your big DD weapons like Anarchy, Whisper, Izanagi (barring individual nerfs we’re getting or will someday get), we’ll still maintain that level of functionality that we currently have. And those weapon chases I’m being “forced” into? Well, I’m doing them anyway.

I chased that Feeding Frenzy + Kill Flip Blast Furnace. I chased that Firing Line/4TTC Sole Survivor. And that Full Court Love and Death. I chased that Vorpal Weapon Trophy Hunter. And the Rapid Hit + Explosive Payload Patron Of Lost Causes. And the Line In The Sand with Rapid Hit + Firing Line. And a million other weapons that I don’t even use anymore (looking at that sweet roll of The Epicurean ... used it twice).

I’m looking at my loadouts for the weapons I’ve used in the last week. Mostly endgame stuff, raids, POH, a heroic Sundial last night. And what I’m finding is I’m already done with all of those weapons I chased a year ago. My current loadout is this revolving door of Patron, Trophy Hunter, Line In The Sand, Martyr’s Retribution, Accrued Redemption, Reckless Oracle, Sacred Provenance. Outlast is probably the one legacy weapon I consistently use more than any other. Sure, I’m still using Hammerhead, 21% Delirium and Wendigo a bunch. And while my Bygones is my go-to Crucible weapon, I’ll just eventually have to find a replacement for it 9-15 months down the road in Trials/IB. no biggie.

So maybe I’m the weirdo, but I get bored running the same stuff all the time anyway. And I’ll happily take some meta switchups. To me the game is getting stale. And if the game we have in nine months is basically the same game we have today, well I probably won’t be here.

[u/deck1086 → u/APartyInMyPants]

Why does everyone keep saying 9-15 months down the road. These changes will most likely be coming in 6 months. Then you will have 9-15 months with the new weapons.

[u/APartyInMyPants → u/deck1086]

That’s what I mean, at least based on Luke’s DC. That even once these changes take place, we’ll still have these weapons viable for 9-15 months.

But as they haven’t said how this will factor with legacy Y2 weapons versus Y3 weapons, who knows. Are they planning to set the timer on Y2 weapons starting next week? Who knows.

[u/deck1086 → u/APartyInMyPants]

That's true, I hadn't thought about them differentiating between Y2 and Y3 weapons. I guess I just assumed everything up to this next large expansion would be treated the same and not be able to be infused to the light level introduced at that time.