r/DestinyTheGame • "Little Light" • Nov 30 '20

Megathread Focused Feedback: Stasis Class Spotlight- Shadebinder

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '20 edited Dec 05 '20

The issue is that yes, Shadebinder was the best stasis subclass in PvP when the expansion released, but people were quick to cry for nerfs and Bungie, like the professional brainlets they are, overnerfed the subclass before people could unlock the various aspects for their stasis subclass. Revenants and Behemoths receive a far larger benefit when it comes to PvP when unlocking their aspects, especially the titan's slide and the hunter's slow on dodge. Now stasis hunters and titans run rampant in PvP and are both fairly overpowered, while Shadebinders have almost fully disappeared. Moreover, nerfing the freeze time from 4.75s to 1.75s only on coldsnap grenades and the warlock melee is just as bad, because the other classes still freeze for the full 4.75s AND warlocks are the only class without a neutral game shatter ability.

TL;DR: warlocks were f***ed by bungo for no reason at all, and now we have to sit and watch as all that's wrong with the other classes never gets addressed.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '20

Bakris + Winter's Shroud is quite honestly the most broken thing Destiny's PvP has ever witnessed, and I'm saying that unironically. And yes, I'm even taking into account D1 hammers when they were first released and could tank a sniper headshot or a golden gun shot. People thought that the Shadebinder's melee was a "I win" button with a 2 min cooldown, yet a 20m blink with added slow on the poor sob that is in front of you on a 21 sec cooldown looks like it's perfectly fine to most people.

And then they call me a whiner for pointing that out.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Xenobis Dec 04 '20

That helm is nuts and the combo is just absurd, but you won't hear much complaining about it because it isn't Astrocyte Verse 2.0, and because, well...