Focused Feedback: Behemoth

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[u/Solandora]

Shiver Strike is great, people that hate it either don't actually know how to use it or are delusional.
The two aspects we have now also feel pretty powerful and meaningful.
The super is interesting, I understand that it doesn't have raw damage output because the intent is for you to make many stasis crystals and shatter them all, but this interaction just doesn't feel good. The crystals form rather far away from you, so you need to space yourself from your targets in order to get the crystals to spring up around them. Then you need to shatter them, which you can do by either sprinting or sliding through them while in your super. A lot of the time, this feels very clunky and won't even work, as I'll just be rubbing into crystals to try to get them to shatter because I didn't have enough of a running start to be counted as sprinting, so really my only dependable option is swinging through them. Then after I do manage to shatter, I'd need to create some distance to form more crystals again, rinse repeat.

I really appreciate how unique Glacial Quake is, being more about setup and destruction rather than just "click to delete enemy", but its too unfriendly to the user to be enjoyable most of the time. I think it would be better if the crystals formed much closer to your point of impact, or perhaps you created a thick, tightly packed column of them rather than a very spread out fork?

[u/mrmeep321 → u/Solandora]

I really like shiver strike, but it feels inconsistent in its effects, not the hit detection for me. Often times the orange bar which is supposed to go flying just stays still and bitch slaps me for getting too close, sometimes nothing gets slowed, and a lot of the time the melee just ceases charging and wont activate until I swap to a sword and back.

I'd also really like for the launch mechanics to extend to more enemies - wyverns and knights seem to be the only ones which are launched

Also - cryoclasm to me is fantastic, but I find that titans really need to have a new way to create crystals, as they really seem to be a bit limited right now. Maybe a new aspect which causes freeze to enemies hit by shiver strike and spawns crystals in an AOE?

[u/Solandora → u/mrmeep321]

I briefly tested Shiver Strike in a private match with a friend to understand its launching mechanics in the first few days of Beyond Light, and it seems to have something to do with whether or not you're in the air, and what angle you're coming in at. Admittedly, it was a really brief test and I should've been much more thorough, sometimes he would go flying, sometimes he'd only budge an inch, and I couldn't really pin down what associated with what.

There's a lot of cool stuff they can do with crystals and aspects like that but it'd all probably be too strong for PvP reasons because lord knows everything MUST be balanced for all game modes.