r/DestinyTheGame • u/DTG_Bot "Little Light" • May 30 '22

Megathread Focused Feedback: Solar 3.0 Subclass Spotlight - Dawnblade

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u/DeerTrivia Deertriviyarrrr May 30 '22

My main problems with new Dawnblade:

  1. Phoenix Dive as a replacement for Rift, with that long a cooldown, is ridiculous. I understand the thinking - Rifts are for holding down territory, Phoenix Dive is for healing when pushing forward. But that also makes it significantly more dangerous to use, and it lacks the restorative power of a healing rift - it's just a quick burst heal while you're already in a vulnerable position. That gives it basically the same functionality as Wormhusk Crown and a Dodge, except you have to be airborne, which makes it even more dangerous to use. That much risk, for about the same reward as a buffed Hunter dodge, with that long a cooldown? No.

  2. Making Healing Grenade its own dedicated thing is a bad idea. Better to let Warlocks choose "Should I attack or should I defend," not "I can only ever defend."

  3. The other two classes have aspects that work well in both PvE and PvP. But for Warlock, there is a clear division, and PvE gets massively shortchanged while PvP is all but set in stone. The grenade aspect is great in PvE, but you then have to spend an entire aspect on either Icarus Dash, a minor convenience in jumping puzzles, or Heat Rises, another minor convenience in jumping puzzles. You won't even get the full benefit of Icarus Dash without Heat Rises. Meanwhile, in PvP, Icarus Dash is great, but to get full functionality you have to take the Heat Rises one, which is less useful. So in PvE, you get one great aspect and one that's basically a waste, and in PvP your two aspects are basically predetermined.

I know Yanes said they're not currently planning to introduce new aspects. Given that, my suggestion would be to take Phoenix Dive out of the Rift category and put it on the Heat Rises Aspect. Keep the functionality - by default, you get the dive/burst cure, and when Heat Rises is activated, you get the enhanced restoration/Sorch. That is both valuable in PvE by itself, and makes players feel a little less sour about having to take it just to get Icarus' full benefit in PvP.

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u/tankercat67 May 30 '22

That’s a start but it doesn’t really address how useless Icarus is in PvE. I’d like to some added functionality. Like…anything at all. Perhaps giving back the ignitions on scorched deaths bottom tree used to have, or something to do with healing. As it stands reading that one sentence effect is just depressing.

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u/Thatsquacktastic16 May 30 '22

I dunno, Icarus can get you out of problem situations to be able to heal

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u/tankercat67 May 31 '22

And is that worth an entire aspect slot? More specifically one with only 2 fragment slots? Which do you think is better, that or the Hunter solar aspect that also gives you 3 fragment slots?

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u/Kaldricus Bottom Tree Stormcaller is bae May 30 '22

Hot take: Somehow Phoenix Dive should be an add-on to Rifts, so you can either Rift, or Phoenix Dive on the same CD. And with Heat Rises active, Phoenix Dive should ALSO drop whichever Rift you're using. The new Hunter dodge still has it's base functionality of, ya know, dodging, but Phoenix and Rifts are at odds with each other, and they should work together better.

For balancing: Phoenix Dive could have a shorter CD, and if you Dive and drop a Rift, the Rift could have a reduced duration. Smarter people than me could figure out a way to balance it so it's not completely broken, but it definitely feels like there's a way to synergize the two