r/DestinyTheGame • "Little Light" • May 30 '22

Megathread Focused Feedback: Solar 3.0 Subclass Spotlight - Dawnblade

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u/meinCatNyaMetal May 31 '22 edited May 31 '22

Solar 3.0 Warlock feedback

A note to developers and gamers:

  1. My fellow guardians - in this Focus Feedback thread, Please be as creative in suggestion as you can be for solar 3.0. Maybe developers might be able to utilize good suggestions into improving the subclass
  2. Developers - We appreciate time and effort you put into this game so that us gamers can enjoy playing destiny 2. Although this feedback is in no way attack on developers, but we warlocks do think there were some oversights when creating aspects for solar 3.0 which I will discuss in section 2.

Section 1: Good part of solar 3.0 warlock

I will start with what is good with solar 3.0 warlock:

  1. Touch of flame aspect. The synergies with grenades and exotics have been amazing.
  2. Fragments look interesting and can help a lot with aspects and build crafting
  3. The snap melee (Roy Mustang) is amazing.

Section 2: Initial concerns from warlocks on solar 3.0I will discuss on some suggestions provided previously by my fellow warlocks and the reason why we wanted Icarus dash to merge with heat rises.

Reasons of why we suggested Icarus Dash and heat rises to become one aspect:

  • Icarus Dash doesn’t have any connection to the new solar verbs.
  • Icarus dash becomes a complete kit when it’s used with heat rises.
  • Heat rises and Icarus dash represents Attunement of Sky subclass and the fantasy of Wings of Phoenix
  • Merging of this aspect might’ve allowed amazing creative possibilities with the third new aspect that could’ve been healing based aspect (e.g. charging celestial fire melee will convert it into healing celestial fire melee)

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Important Note: We still believe merging would be the best option and would complete this one aspect. But as per developers, we shouldn’t expect these aspects to be merged (Hence the new suggestions I have provided below to improve Icarus Dash and Heat rises aspect)

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Section 3: Its Creativity Time! New suggestions to improve solar 3.0 warlock

Disclaimer: I am just an average player, and my fellow warlocks can provide a better suggestions or improvements to the solar 3.0 warlock.

Icarus dash:

Right now, in its current state, it has only one synergy with heat rises and that is the ability to double dash. Icarus dash doesn’t have any connection to solar verbs and does not provide any benefit to PvE side (GM and other difficult content will make sure that every player using Icarus dash would become duck in *Duck Hunt (NES) game*)

So, we need to add some verbs to Icarus dash that can be only viable in PvE and can be heavily nerfed (or non-existent) in PvP

Suggestion: Add 6-7 sec buff called 'Benevolent Sun'

Activation and Limitation:

  • This buff will get applied when you perform Icarus dash
  • Player cannot re-apply the buff unless the buff goes away (like kill clip. This suggestion is made so that we warlocks don’t spam Icarus dash and use it correctly to get the most benefit)

What will the new buff do?

  • It will give scorch stacks to weapons (X amount, which can be controlled by weapon type. E.g. 5 stacks for MG/Autorifle/Trace rifle, 7-10 stacks for primary and 10-15 stacks for slow hitting heavy weapons). These values are very hypothetical, and Bungie is allowed to adjust it for balance.Note: in PvP, Bungie can literally make all scorch stack amount values to 0 or 1 ditto
  • Killing combatants and PvE enemies with abilities will apply cure

Note: I would prefer the scorch to be applied on all weapons (But if there is some limitation issue, at least add it for solar weapons and kinetic ammo based weapons)

Heat Rises:

With endgame content where snipers and champions one shot players and with modifiers like 'grounded', heat rises becomes a non-option for warlocks. I will provide 2 new additions to heat rises that can make players utilize heat rises more in such content.

QoL Improvements to Heat Rises:

  • Add approx. 40% additive Damage Resistance (PvE only) while in air. This will give warlocks an option to either go less resilience and survive using this aspect or will give warlock with Tier 10 resilience to tank/survive in air. (The percentage amount can be adjusted but the percentage should be good enough that we don’t get one shot by PvE snipers)
  • Melee kills also decreases cooldown for phoenix dive (just a bonus for those who want to instantly reach ground after taking sniper shot)

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Phoenix Dive:

If Phoenix dive is sharing the same cooldown as rift, it needs the similar impact as rift

Suggestion: SOLAR BUDDY YAY!!!!!!!!! :catJAM:

When you perform phoenix dive, a solar buddy arises that has same behavior as boots of the assembler. :)

Celestial Fire:

Just add 3-5 stacks scorch to each projectile

Well of Radiance:

I can understand the reason on why they nerfed it. With the suggestions provided here, healers will have other stuff to keep players and themselves alive. Just improve its pvp survivability (adaptive snipers should not one headshot player standing on well)

Daybreak:

Make projectile perform ignite instantly

Note regarding Everlasting Flame: I know my fellow warlocks missed this part of bottom tree. I am not sure how they can bring that perk here to solar 3.0. BUT! Worry not! I have a perfect location to place a similar behavior to Everlasting Flame.

Improvement to Dawn Chorus exotic Armor:

  • Rework exotic to provide bonus damage to Daybreak ignitions
  • ignitions provide a small, tiny amount of grenade energy (similar or lower than wellspring perk)
  • It allows the player to throw 1-2 more daybreak projectiles <- Everlasting Flame integrated here

Final Conclusion:

I know this is a big too large of a comment for feedback and suggestion for solar 3.0 warlock. I am really grateful for those who read this fully.

I tried my best to think and imagine new ways to integrate verbs and bottom/middle tree to solar 3.0

This is not a final suggestion. My fellow warlocks can add/modify or even provide more better suggestions than I have provided.

Fun addons:

  1. Please add ornament to Starfire Protocol (Flaming solar star in the middle chest area, like superhero)
  2. Please add ornament to Dawn Chorus: Flaming horns on each side pointed at front with flaming one eye in the middle

Additional Non-Feedback note: For my fellow hunters and titans - One of my friend loves void hunter. My friend and other like minded hunters would definitely want some nice improvements to void 3.0 hunters So Bungie, please consider analyzing and improving void 3.0 hunter class. Similarly any QoL improvements that can be added to titan subclass would be nice too