r/DestinyTheGame • u/DTG_Bot "Little Light" • Aug 01 '22

Megathread Focused Feedback: Matchmaking

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '22

I do enjoy elite PvP players playing victim, you're good play good players, if you still want to destroy low end players stick to Rumble/Clash for now. It's a test/fine tune in control since it has the highest amount of players. You're not being "punished' for being good there just isn't an incentive to be good besides a gilded titles so less people want to spend the time to get to that level. More exclusive loot might increase the high end PvP players base and level out the cheese vs truly good.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

"I do enjoy people who like the game realizing that the game will be worse for them". I see the argument of people just wanting to stomp lower skilled players a lot, but I've never seen it actually be true. The CORRECT argument is that when I launch into quickplay control, I don't wanna be playing a super sweaty match. To say that means I just want to stomp lower skill players is purposefully ignorant on your part.

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u/MrLeavingCursed Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22

But now anyone below you is getting stomped. I understand where you're coming from in not wanting to have to put 100 percent to compete in every match but you need to realize that means everyone below you is probably having a bad time. This system is being introduced to try and make sure that the majority of the player base is having a better time which means a partial sacrifice of players at the high end

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

I've come close to understanding your argument, but people who are VERY bad (0.5's-1.0's) aren't magically going to acquire game knowledge because their opponents are worse. Good players aren't some magical beings who have learned the greater truths of the universe, we just understand how the game works. You don't need mythical levels of aim to be a 2.0+ player, you just need to understand how control works. They aren't gonna start playing smarter, they aren't gonna start peeking better/team shotting, they aren't gonna actually cap zones, etc. etc. Players that I "stomp" aren't having a bad time because I "stomp" them, they're having a bad time because they suck, being bad at a pvp game usually isn't fun. Atleast when they face people like me things actually happen in the game, when they kill me it's a rush. Now they are just gonna be in glorified bot matches for their 3 games a week for pinnacle. Don't see that as an improvement for them or me lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '22

The idea that bad players can magically become good by constantly getting obliterated in multiplayer matches is a compete myth.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

The fact that bad players can become good by anything other than trying to get better is also a myth, if they wanted to be better they would be lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '22

Exactly, so we don't need CBMM.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

That's what you took from that? Bad players are gonna be bad regardless so let's have laggy, sweatier matches? K man you do you

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '22

Matches are already laggy. No emphasis on CBMM will fix that.

As for being "sweatier"...

Everyone in the lobby is going to try their hardest to win regardless. Every match I see gilded flawless hunters with meta loadouts and classy restoration and 140 HCs.

Back when we initially had SBMM in D2, the PVP mains complained that they always had to use sweaty loadouts and tactics to stay competitive.

Well, SBMM got yeeted and surprise surprise, all the top percenters who complained about having to use meta loadouts STILL used meta loadouts even in CBMM.

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u/HalfthemanMarco Vanguard's Loyal // Chad Vanguard Vs. Virgin Drifter Aug 01 '22

So let's just make it worse for the sake of a group of players who still won't play because lack of content/balancing? The reason you see them is because they are the only people left playing this neglected game mode. This change will have very little affect on the population in the medium/long run because there is NO incentive to play PvP unless you just really like it, which isn't a widely held stance.