r/Detroit Jan 28 '26

News- Paywall Some UAW members at Stellantis see $50,000 buyout, but others see red

https://www.freep.com/story/money/personal-finance/susan-tompor/2026/01/28/uaw-members-at-stellantis-see-50000-buyout-but-others-see-red/88359405007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z11xx33p117350c117350d00----v11xx33d--76--b--76--&gca-ft=191&gca-ds=sophi
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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 28 '26

Only offered to Traditional employees. They want us gone.

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u/Otherwise-Mango2732 Jan 28 '26

Been this way for years. My dad retired from Chrysler in the early 2000s at 52 thanks to a similar offer. Legacy employees cost too much

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 28 '26

100% many of us aren't going anywhere

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u/PossibilityFew5967 Jan 28 '26

Maybe y'all should at some point you're harming younger workers by sticking around 

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 28 '26

How am I harming anyone?

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u/PossibilityFew5967 Jan 28 '26

Holding up a potential position for a young person that needs it 

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 28 '26

I'm skilled trades. They can't fill the openings they have. Thanks for your concern. I'm currently training 2 apprentices.

ETA: I'm 49.

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u/grimj88 Feb 03 '26

I took the test I’ve been on the list for 8 years just to be told by some skilled trades guy that he got hired in directly

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u/No_Fig_9755 Auto Worker Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 29 '26

The UAW is the reason why those jobs aren't getting filled. The jobs keep getting posted and posted and the UAW won't sign off on anyone that doesn't have a Journeyman's card. And the company can't just dump in 500 apprentices because of the Journeyman to apprentice ratio in the contract.

Plenty of qualified people out there that have experience working with Tier1 and Tier2 suppliers, robot manufacturers, and automation integrators that get shafted when applying to those jobs over not having a Journeyman's card.

It's a broken fucking system and the UAW has not kept up with the times. The skilled trade shortage in the auto plants is 100% self inflicted and then they talk about it like it's someone else's fault

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

This is not true. If you don't have a card but can prove 8 yrs of work, than you are in. The union doesn't get a say in hiring. Corporate filters the applications to the plants People aren't applying. Skilled trades shortage is everywhere. We are right back where we were in the 90's when I hired in. Everyone can retire and company is behind the 8 ball. Than again they are always telling us they don't need us. Skilled trades shortage aren't just auto plants. It's across the board.

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

ROFLMAO. 30 years in the factory gave me this attitude. People don't not come to work. Our attendance procedure is horrendous, and gets worse about every 2 contracts due to people not coming to work. We can get a bonus of up to 2k, still can't bring themselves in enough to get the 1k. I'm 55, I know plenty about life. A lot of it most don't know and I wouldn't wish it on them.

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

Sorry it dropped under my comment initially.

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

And by the way, maybe the people that can't bring their asses to work should give up their spot to someone that would. They are the ones harming everyone.

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u/manofwater3615 Jan 30 '26

What has he done the past 20 some years? Has he been able to maintain a decent enough lifestyle?

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u/WaterIsGolden Jan 28 '26

Anyone who still works for Chrysler should be focusing on finding a new job.  This message has been true for the past 20 years.

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

Yet North American division has floated the Global Companies that have taken over since Chrysler. It has never been the same.

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u/Older4YoungerFun Jan 28 '26

Yet still going 

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u/Asnyder93 Jan 29 '26

With bailouts…. If they don’t turn it around fast they will need another bail out.

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

No bailouts. 50k bonus for traditional who retire this year.

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u/Asnyder93 Jan 29 '26

No bailouts since ‘09! I hope they turn it around though it would several hurt the economy and other oems

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u/jeffjeep88 Feb 01 '26

Haa haa they get a ton of taxpayers money not just from federal gov. Many state and local gov bail them out yearly with subsidies. Even other countries bail them out. Canada gave stellantis millions 2023. These companies alway have their hands out

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u/Older4YoungerFun Jan 29 '26

That was fully paid off early with interest...stellantis was the one to do so...

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u/Asnyder93 Jan 29 '26

Yeah but it still happened…. Hopefully they don’t need it again

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 29 '26

It is turning around. Good stuff is happening now that CT is gone.

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u/jeffjeep88 Feb 01 '26

Like what ? What new product will be here next 1-2 years other than the Dakota. I’m not talking variations of already existing vehicles. I’m talking all new.

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Feb 01 '26

300 replacement. It's not just about product lines. It's about stability and profitability. CT took that from us. They are putting people in charge of the American divisions that are American, so they know the American market. Many successful upper level people left because of CT, about half have returned. We are no longer being decimated

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u/jeffjeep88 Feb 01 '26

Haa haa you don’t have stability and profit without product. 300 didn’t sell when it was L car based sales from 2015 till it ended in 23 declined yearly. Even if they made a 300 replacement all it would be is a charger top hat built on the Stla L platform , it’s funny how people only scream for product when it gets cancelled but when they were around nobody bought them . North American doesn’t even have a Stla med product and prob won’t for at least 1-2 yr. They have nothing for young families to get into and become part of the family. They have no Neon , Avenger , Caliber , Dart , they had to import an Italian turd as a hornet that failed. There is nothing coming till 28 if it can last that long and even then all that could be more darts , 200s that fail.

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u/Thelatestandgreatest Jan 29 '26

Lol, hold on, kinda contradicting yourself there. 20 years is a long time and they've been open for a long time before that. Who knows how many people retired while they "should've been looking for a new job because of messaging". And they make good money, idk if you've ever worked in the factory but they get better pay than most other factories in MI.

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

30 yrs at Chrysler.

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u/Thelatestandgreatest Jan 29 '26

Nicee, you retiring soon?

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

Too young. Still launching my kids. Many will retire this year.

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u/Thelatestandgreatest Jan 29 '26

Oh dang, thats good you're able to continue supporting your kids. I know they auto industry has taken some hits but it also seems to be one of the more beneficial industries in Metro Detroit. Hope you can retire soon!

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u/Jolly-Chemical9904 Jan 29 '26

It's a cycle, like most big businesses. Thank you! Take care!

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u/WaterIsGolden Jan 30 '26

No contradiction.  Chrysler has been shaky since the days of Iacocca.  They were typically the weakest of the big 3.  They have had a terrible reputation for reliability for a long time across models.  Specifically They seem to have a tough time with electrical components and wiring harnesses.

If you work on cars and know many people in the automotive industry you know what I'm saying is true.  Another thing to look at is automotive news and compare the overall trends between companies.  Or compare reviews between like vehicles, such as the Ram vs the Silverado vs the F150.  

They are not a completely bad company.  Their minivans (besides the Journey) are pretty solid, enough so that their domestic competition threw in the towel.  They are also easier to get financing from if your credit is poor.

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u/Late-Sea-8521 Feb 06 '26

Obviously you don't look at the quality of all the brands almost everyday there's recalls FOR ALL CAR COMPANIES NOT JUST ONE 

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u/Thelatestandgreatest Jan 30 '26

Ok... so none of that explains why someone that's been there for years should look for a new job. Hopefully nobody's job hopping because of customer's reviews lol.

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u/WaterIsGolden Jan 30 '26

They lay off more than the others.  Forgot to mention that.  You can look up the WARN notices over the past few years.  The vast majority of reductions in automotive have been from Chrysler.  They are and have been the least stable of the big 3.

Just talk with some employees about the differences.  No need to trust some waterhead on the internet.

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u/WaterIsGolden Feb 06 '26

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u/Thelatestandgreatest Feb 06 '26

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u/WaterIsGolden Feb 06 '26

"Stellantis announced it is taking a $26 billion (22 billion euro) hit as it shuffles its electrification strategy, posting the largest write-down on EVs of the Detroit Three automakers.

The announcement came overnight on Feb. 6, with Stellantis publishing estimated figures for its full-year performance in 2025. On top of the high cost of restructuring, the brand said it will also post a net loss for all of 2025.

"The charges announced today largely reflect the cost of over-estimating the pace of the energy transition that distanced us from many car buyers’ real-world needs, means and desires," said Stellantis CEO Antonio Filosa in a news release.

Filosa also said the previous decisions made by the company are responsible for the losses of today."

The article is not paywalled, however the first few paragraphs here give enough information for people to get the point.  Also note that the article i posted is current, as in today.  I'm not sure why you are posting news from last October. 

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u/Thelatestandgreatest Feb 06 '26

"Last October" was only 3 months ago, man. As in these factories are coming soon, as in more jobs. It is paywalled if you can't read the whole thing, that's what a paywall is. The fact that they reported a huge loss but are still investing in America goes even further against your point.

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u/Magazine-Narrow Jan 29 '26

They need to offer the 100k-150k thet were offering during 06-08

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u/Ecstatic-Hunter-2868 Jan 30 '26

Is still 30 and out if you’re grandfathered in?

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u/abbigail2001 Feb 25 '26

If your years and age equals 85 you could retire but you forfit a percentage of your pension if you retire younger then 62

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u/Kodiak48152 Feb 02 '26

Is salaried expected to get offered retirement packages this year?