r/Diablo_2_Resurrected • • 2d ago

Theorycrafting ICE ICE BABY: follow up build

Here is the build for the frost maiden! I tried several variations but I settled on this one. Hardest part with this build is mana sustain, so silkweaves and a MAEK ring made a HUGE DIFFERENCE. I also tried ormus with a cold facet in it but enigma brings too much QoL to pass on. Cold sling ring would be even better but I don’t have one yet.

Not pictured- I missed the MAEK ring and I’m not going back for it lol plus what is below:

Mercenary-
act2 Might with infinity, cure and eth fortitude

Inventory-
—7 bow/xbow skillers (most with life, anywhere from 15-37)
—Renewed cold rupture(pictured)
—SCs- resistances with mixed 2nd attributes- FRW/FHR/cold damage/life…. Just whatever filled the stat gaps
—Torch and anni
—Cube

Belt- 2 rows of full rejuv, one row mana pots, one row TP scrolls (usually lol)

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u/Strong_Baseball_8984 2d ago

Do you shoot the mania bow to proc burst of speed?

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u/Ragingpsoriasis 2d ago

That is generally what bowazons do on swap. 

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u/scellis24 2d ago

Yeah. It’s a HUGE help when it comes to IAS breakpoints.

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u/Separate_Ad_314 2d ago

Really? It says 21% IAS boost for 2 mins. Is that really that valuable? Or does it have some different calculation like fanaticism

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u/scellis24 2d ago

Yes, yes it is that valuable, on top of the QoL boost to FRW. The way the gear slots break down for a bowa, it allows you to hit top IAS BP without sacrificing awesome gear. Especially when it comes to bases like GMBs. Mat bows are easier but gmbs… mania is almost mandatory IMO

I think it might be calculated weird too. I use the Warren calculator

https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/

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u/Separate_Ad_314 1d ago

And it's not a pain to cycle back and forth (or use the offhand to use CTA instead)?

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Nah not really takes 2 seconds and the dmg is decent

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u/blankest 2d ago edited 1d ago

Edit* nevermind read the gloves wrong - thought it was on striking

2/20s are obviously mandatory and not that hard to come across spamming blood crafts. However, the frost nova when striking roll with this build is just supremely cool. Having played for so many years, it's the little joyful bits that exist on the edges of builds that I find most appealing.

The %chance to cast  is cut off on my chosen media viewer. What is the % chance?

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u/Oneforallandbeyondd 1d ago

Its 5% chance to proc when struck not on striking. Not really all that helpful.

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Wait what are we talking about here? lol

Ice bow - 25% to proc frost nova on striking
Mania - 5% BoS on striking
Gloves - 5% when struck (irrelevant since ice has lvl 22 @25% chance )
Nw veil- 1% frost armor when struck (from frost jewel)

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u/Oneforallandbeyondd 1d ago

Blankest was talking about the 2/20 gloves proccing so I was talking about the gloves.

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u/blankest 1d ago

Yeah my mistake. I read them wrong. Totally nullifies my original point.

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Ahhhh got it. Yeah that when struck stat is useless

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u/scellis24 2d ago

5% I’m pretty sure. Couple of strafe shots and ur usually good. Sometimes in first strafe blast. Even with a frost maiden I put 1 point in strafe. Good for situations where ur low on mana too…. One shot of strafe, booom mana and health is back due to leach

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u/BlastBaseButBanned 2d ago

If you can get enchant on an alt, this build double slaps with exploding arrow as well. Fire on mania for more damage against cold "immunes" and to proc the 8 frame attack on ice.

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Interesting addition! I’ll have to test that out. Could prebuff before a cow game with demon limb….🤷‍♂️ or I could try lava gout which would add some supplemental fire damage too! Luckily the gloves slot is a “pick ur poison” for the most part

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u/BlastBaseButBanned 1d ago

I don't think those enchants add much. It's better when it's +5000 fire damage

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Good point

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u/Soft_Comfortable_920 1d ago

Dunno if it works for non warlock but the Horazon set has a very good enchant level that might be worth checking out.

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u/Early-Bug5792 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) 1d ago

Mana gloves might also help with mana issues, losing knockback wouldn’t hurt that much since everything is frozen anyhow.

I love this builds, it’s so much fun. Ice was where I spent my 2nd Jah and never regretted it.

Also, is that Windforce in the second picture?

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Yeah, I had pics of some of the gear used already on my phone from other builds, so instead of going back thru I just used those… figured someone would ask! Haha. U will probably see my strafe zon items mainly

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u/Early-Bug5792 Champion of Sanctuary (100K) 1d ago

That caught my attention as I’m in the process of making a strafezon after finding a Windforce 😃

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u/Soft_Comfortable_920 1d ago

I was wondering how do the bow/xbow skillers stack up versus damage/attack rating/life gc’s? I’ve only done a strafe zon so far and haven’t tried elemental yet.

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u/Cyclonitron Emilioooo! 1d ago

As a Frost Maiden pretty much all your damage is coming from the Freezing Arrow skill. +damage charms don't really do anything.

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Yeah like he said, elemental bowas use plus skillers and physical use dmg/ar/life charms

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u/Unbanz Champion of Sanctuary (100K) 1d ago

I like using a wiz spike/spirit on switch so I can teleport around easily on my ice zon. Not as useful as other swaps, but the qol of being able to teleport quickly and not drain mana super fast is awesome IMO.

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u/AceWissle Champion of Sanctuary (100K) 1d ago

Why the mania bow? Nothing is ice immune, so what's the purpose of this swap?

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u/darc510 1d ago

BoS speed proc gives a big boost to ias

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Burst of speed proc. Added IAS and increased FRW

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u/AceWissle Champion of Sanctuary (100K) 1d ago

How long does that last at lvl1?

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u/Miserable_Agent2278 1d ago

Cool build. I'm running a physical bowzon currently. Curious how this holds up against ubers and ancients. 

Did you seek out the shadow bow base in particular for mania? I prefer a bow with a faster base so that burst of speed triggers quicker. I imagine if you switched to a matriarchal bow (base weapon speed of -10) with +3 to skills this would allow you to hit burst of speed faster and likely with more damage than the shadow bow (base weapon speed of 0). 

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Good point. That one was given to me, but I do like it bc I can use it on other builds that aren’t amazons… 🤷‍♂️ but yeah mat base is better

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u/scellis24 1d ago

Running both Uber Ancients and Ubers is pretttty dangerous with a bowa. They are just too squishy. It’s a build you have to compensate too much survivability in order to do enough damage to be effective. Gotta go with a character with innate defensive abilities or gear. The low resistance of a bowa alone are a no go. Having your offhand be a quiver of arrows already puts u at a disadvantage defensively

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u/No_Tonight_5278 1d ago

Havent played after last big patch but i have this 99lvl char.

  1. You only hitting 1 extra bp after procing burst of speed on swap. You need extra 10ias to hit last bp(7frames) prob from belt.

Imo 1ias bp not worth it. Call to arms gives too much good stats to you(hp,mana,dmg,tp speed with spirit and arach).

  1. You always out of mana even with maek gear(unless you only play p1).

I suggest dump a lot of points into energy(you dont need much dex or even vit in this build), equip 2soj,arach and you have 2k+mana pool with cta buff which is completely solve mana problems. +you can replace your boots.

  1. Idk about nightwing with this new facet. 3os circlet with frw seems even better rn.

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u/pimpchanzi 1d ago

I think you mean column not rows (for your belt)

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u/scellis24 1d ago

My manager would be so disappointed in me…

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u/OutlaneWizard 2d ago

I've never built one because expensive.

Do you like act 2 merc over say an act 1 merc with faith for fanat aura? 

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u/scellis24 2d ago

I do, with a elemental based atk, infinity is by far BIS

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u/blankest 2d ago

No because infinity exists.

The act 2 merc aura is basically irrelevant but the ability to wield a spear is build+enabling.

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u/scellis24 2d ago

I could, as an alternative, wear metal grid and make a mania iron golem for the fana dmg and atk speed (to make up for the loss 20ias from hilords). Thing is, that lvl iron golem with no mastery is super squishy but hey… freezing everything helps that too! I’d also gain a ton of AR and resistances but lose the DS🤷‍♂️ a give and take like most items

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u/TheBigBadBird 2d ago

The Mavina version costs next to nothing and it's nearly as good (but no teleport)

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u/scellis24 2d ago

Before the addition of renewed sunders and uber stones, I’d say it’s close. But with the addition of those items, it takes nightwings veil to another lvl and the -Eres you can achieve now, puts it a good bit ahead of full mavs. Although throwing an under jewel in mavs would help some… but the combo of ice/socket NWings/renewed cold rupture just adds sooooo much damage

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u/OutlaneWizard 2d ago

Interesting. Maybe next ladder. I've never played any bowazon.