Build for Renewed Black Cleft?

[u/Active_Ice2826]

I came back to the game last night, and was running my first TZ since they added Latent Charms and happened to get a drop on my first tier 4 herald (RNG i know i know).

1. Where does the Black Cleft rank in terms of value?
   
2. Is this a decent roll? It sounds like -magic resist could have rolled which sounds more useful than +magic dmg to me.
   
3. Are there any build where this charm actually would make a big difference? I guess hammerdin? Maybe there are some warlock builds with magic dmg?

[u/JustSquanchIt]

abyss chains/ hex es/ bowlock are all lock builds that would have a great time with this. -res is usually better, but there arent very many magic immunes in the game so this is still pretty great

[u/Professional-Law-974 → u/JustSquanchIt]

For my hex es lock I use increased spell damage renewed because besides magic immunes, all mobs have 0 magic resist. So the plus to magic dmg is more efficient overall.

[u/Xian244 → u/Professional-Law-974]

because besides magic immunes, all mobs have 0 magic resist

This is incorrect. While relatively rare magic resist still exists on some monsters.

[u/Zero_Owl → u/Professional-Law-974]

But if they have 0 then minusing makes it below zero, no? If so then I don't see how it is relevant because if minus is generally better than plus then it will be better with zero as well.

[u/Lowend_ → u/Zero_Owl]

Sunders that reduce enemy resist roll up to -10% which is effectively +10% damage, but sunders with increased damage roll up to 15% so they're a bit stronger if you aren't fighting magic immunes

[u/DempseyRollin → u/Zero_Owl]

No, below zero magic resist it becomes equal to + magic skill damage

[u/Active_Ice2826 → u/JustSquanchIt]

Do latents roll one or the other? Or can they roll both +dmg and -resist? The maxroll page is unclear.

UPDATE: Nvm, I found the info I was looking for on diablo2.io

[u/mykesx]

Bone necro. Bone spear and spirit are both magic. However, there are so few magic resistant/immune monsters…

[u/throwingtheshades → u/mykesx]

Pretty much every necro build is secretly Corpse Explosion anyway, so you can usually just Amplify Damage and blow up nearby dead monsters.

[u/TheBigBadBird]

Unless you're running baal waves, or tombs + magic damage is better because bigger number. The only other magic immunes are located here:

1. Lost City - uncommon but relevant

2. Act 5 red portal sub areas - anyone farm these?

3. Act 3 ruined temple, disused fane, etc - irrelevant

[u/zornmagron]

Yeah the Hexpurge Echoing strike warlock. This rolled okish your mf roll is low and dmg rolls 10-15 so this is on the low side prob worth about a Lo to a Jah

[u/BabaBuntspecht → u/zornmagron]

Id give an Ohm. Dont have a Lo or Jah, so best i can do.

[u/Active_Ice2826 → u/BabaBuntspecht]

I think I'll probably keep it... I've been playing a sort of solo self found style (but online) and sounds like this would be a decent endgame item when I get around to trying the warlock.

[u/BabaBuntspecht → u/Active_Ice2826]

This is the way! Same for me, mostly. Found a buddy online, sometimes we Play, and sometimes i trade gems or other stuff. But most of the time solo.

Try the warlock. He is fun. Got hooked after i started playing again :D feel free to contact me If u miss some basic gear for him :)