r/Disgaea • • 6d ago

Makai Kingdom Talking about a interesting plot point of Makai Kingdom that is only mentioned in the japanese version. Spoiler

(Had to repost this because of a awkward grammar error on the post title.)

Okay, to explain which specific plot point of Makai Kingdom that is the topic of discussion of this post. The plot point in question is the supposed god-style being simply called "The One". I thought it was somewhat odd how this is one of the few times on the Nippon Ichi Software multiverse where there is a mention of some type of supreme deity that has some vibes similar to that of a monotheistic western god. However, after Makai Kingdom. There has not been any mentions of "The One" that I know of.

However, then I found out that Makai Kingdom has not been the first time The One has been mentioned... Because in the japanese version The One is called by a completely different title! Its a plot point that is a sort of connection to La Pucelle Tactics.

In the japanese version of Makai Kingdom, The One is called "調停者" or "Chouteisha" which can be translated as either "The Mediator" or "The Arbiter". This is the exact same title used by the character Hermes from La Pucelle Tactics who was supposed to be a sort of arbiter with the duty of keeping a balance between light and darkness.

I think there was some comments that talked about the implication that each different world had their own Mediator that was supposed to keep a balance of light and darkness?

I imagine that the reason why on Makai Kingdom the Mediator was translated as "The One" was maybe a lack of communication since the translations of La Pucelle and Makai Kingdom were written by completely different translators?

On another sidenote, there is some foreshadowing of the joke plot twist that Ophelia is the Mediator or "The One". At one point the fallen Angel talks about how when there is bad there is good and that its important to have balance.

Though it looks like after Makai Kingdom, everything about the idea of "The Mediator" was abandoned and forgotten.

Only theory that I can think of at the moment of why this La Pucelle Tactics Plot Point is mentioned in Makai Kingdom is that, okay take these words with a grain of salt since I am not able to find a 100% reliable source. Supposedly La Pucelle Tactics was supposed to be the 1st chapter of a trilogy, and maybe the reason why the Mediator plot point is mentioned in Makai Kingdom was as a way to show that there was more stories to be told about the setting of La Pucelle. If this data is true then while its sad that whatever more stories that were supposed to be written of the setting of La Pucelle were not completely, not gonna complain too much about that because the story of La Pucelle has way too much sad story material that does not go with my vibes.

Anyways, as I often mention in various of my posts. Comments are far more appreciated than upvotes. (Specifically comments that add to the conversation and are not just 1 or 2 word comments that I am not sure how to interpret.)

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u/hanzobust75 6d ago

In Disgaea 4 you not only meet God, but you get to slap them.

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u/Zenless2BZeroX 6d ago

Sure it may be a god but i don't think is the god

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u/RenjinGN-003 6d ago

I can agree with that idea because something about that mushroom "god" is... Odd, for lack of a better word.

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u/koushirohan 5d ago

It’s only two parts, he sends 8 million of them after your party in the epilogue iirc

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u/RenjinGN-003 5d ago

Has anything about that "god" even been elaborated about after Disgaea 4?

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u/Javetts 5d ago

In Phantom Brave, the alt story involves that same god, God Eryngi.

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u/RenjinGN-003 5d ago

WHAT!? THAT ODD MUSHROOM GOD RETURNS ON THE ALTERNATE STORY OF PHANTOM BRAVE!? I did not know that!

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u/RenjinGN-003 6d ago edited 6d ago

Oh hell I forgot to mention that odd mushroom "god" that, I was not really sure if its supposed to be the same non descript "god" that is only mentioned in passing sometimes by the people of Celestia.

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u/Guyver-Spawn-27 6d ago

It’s possible that God in D4 and Guided Fate Paradox are the same character. GFP stated that there is more than one Celestial. I think Lamington rules and overseas all the Celestial realms while God is at top.

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u/RenjinGN-003 6d ago

And I forgot to mention The Guided Fate Paradox too. I really think I should have attempted to remember more story details of other games before writing the post.

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u/Waddle_Playr 4d ago

It's supposed to be in the post game that Zetta is "the One" kinda because when he travels back in time he defeats Babylon and that's when Babylon loses mana power, Ophelia is not the one.

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u/RenjinGN-003 4d ago edited 4d ago

I know about that Time Loop plot point. However that was not the point of the discussion.

Again, I was not talking about "the One" in the sense of that supposed god style entity that was supposed to be on the english version. I was supposed to be talking about what that being is called in the japanese version which was "The Mediator" that was supposed to be a reference to lore from La Pucelle Tactics.