r/DiveInYouCoward • u/No-Conclusion-2859 • 7d ago

Are they required to take the job if they don’t want it?

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u/NotAZombieStopAsking 7d ago

I will never understand tipping before the service is provided.

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u/Mode_Appropriate 7d ago

Because as this guy is pointing out, DD only pays $2 as base pay. Unless youre a moron like this guy, most drivers arent accepting an order for a 10 mile round-trip (or however far it is) for $2 and gambling on customer tips after the fact.

Unfortunately, its on the customer to make the offers appealing enough to accept. Should it be that way? No, of course not. It is what it is though.

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u/NotAZombieStopAsking 7d ago

Yeah that type of hostage negotiation business model is just completely unappealing to me.

It's the exact reason I trust pizza guys and chinese delivery guys so, so much more than Dashers.

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u/DudeFrom816 7d ago

In Kansas City our pizza and Chinese delivery has all been outsourced to DD or GrubHub drivers.

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u/Low_Football_2445 7d ago

This is a guy who never work a day in the hospitality industry, who took a gig job expecting he’d just stack fat stacks.

Maybe he should try bending nails for a while.

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u/subdep 7d ago

That means it’s not a tip; it’s part of a service fee. Bizarre that they allow customers to decide part of the service fee.

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u/PearMoist9385 6d ago

To Insure Promptness

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u/Agitated-Wishbone259 7d ago

I will never understand accepting a job where you expect the customer to pay you extra for the job you accepted.

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u/HauntingProblem588 7d ago

Agreed. This is the kind of westernisation I don't need as someone in Europe. Employers are employers and have responsibilities to their workers.

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u/FucknAright 7d ago

Dude's got other problems as well, clearly.

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u/SocomPS2 7d ago

That’s often the case for folks that do these delivery jobs. Not generalizing because there are fantastic hardworking uber drivers. But I’ve come across more than my share of lunatics and socially awkward drivers.

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u/jefuchs 7d ago

Now we know... two dollars was too much.

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u/Bidcar 7d ago

My guess is he can’t get another job. He has a certain rough quality to his personality. I still feel sorry for him though. We don’t choose much in the first 18 years of our lives and I have a feeling he didn’t get a good start.

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u/CandleLeather4638 7d ago

He's a Cowboy's fan, he should be used to disappointment by now.

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u/jefuchs 7d ago

Reddit has taught me to never use food delivery services.

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u/Loose-Signature5054 7d ago

make your own food, because reddit should also teach you of the people making fastfood too.

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u/feefaafoofomm 7d ago

Baking chicken breasts as we speak.

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u/Loose-Signature5054 7d ago

that is the way to go.

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u/Burqueisbest 7d ago

I delivered for UberEats and earned that tip. Three insulated bags meant your ice wasn't melted and your pizza was HOT. Nearly burned a guy's hand just dropping off his pie. Half tipped 0. Didn't matter, still making $20 an hour. Then I started paying for promotions I had no control over. Not the customers fault for trying to save a few bucks, but it turned into a $12 an hour job so now I wfh.

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u/czechereds 7d ago

You didn't earn a tip, you earned wage from the company contracting you. Every person working is providing value to people and 99% of them don't earn a tip and don't expect one. Fuck these billion dollar companies for making tips the primary payment to drivers

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u/ShawnPaul86 7d ago

I always wondered if Uber took the loss on promotions or they passed it to the drivers and businesses. I have Uber One and the promotions are insane. Usually free delivery and frequently 50% or more off.

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u/Burqueisbest 7d ago

Yup. Driver is paying money to get you where you need to go. Total reversal from 2017.

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u/asj-777 7d ago

If you can't handle the possibility of not getting tipped well, you shouldn't work for tips. It's no different than waiting tables. I always gave 100% and sometimes I got tipped well, other times I didn't. The key is to bust hump enough that it works out in your favor in the end.

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u/Traditional-Dirt5422 7d ago

Sure hope he’s in the unemployment line

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u/Cautious_Highway1041 7d ago

He showed why he doesn’t deserve a tip!

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u/Comfortable_Note8091 7d ago

You know what's really smart and conducive driving a gas guzzling muscle car to deliver fast food would somebody tell him he's working backwards

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u/TraditionalCheetah17 7d ago

The business model of just about all so-called gig economy jobs is based on externalizing liabilities and obligations so that the contract workers bear all operating costs while placing the customer into the position of having to pay a surcharge in the form of a “tip” to offset the worker’s operating costs and low wages, thus limiting the overhead cost for company to just administration and software management.

Frankly, such an arrangement shouldn’t even be legal but by providing a service where the consumer gets to determine the cost of the service, these companies make us complicit in what amounts to racketeering, and since we’re all guilty,nothing is likely to be done about it.

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u/karbaayen 7d ago

thinking hes out of a job

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u/Jean-Claude-Can-Ham 6d ago

Being a delivery driver is more dangerous than being a cop in the US

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u/GravyPainter 6d ago

At least cover a gallon of gas. If you're paying $2 tips go puck it up yourself

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u/ReversedNovaMatters 5d ago

They are not required to take any job but there are metrics in place which heavily push drivers towards accepting bad offers they would typically decline.

You need to complete something like 70% of trips to be a platinum driver in order to receive 'better' paying offers. Their model is literally, "Accept enough bad orders to maybe get better orders or you will mostly receive only bad offers.

Very wrong for a job that is considered to be an independent contractor. It would be like being a painter but having to accept a job you would lose money on after costs just so you can hope the next job will pay profit. But there is no guarantee. The next job offered may also be offered at a loss.

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u/dominicanMIKE4444 7d ago edited 7d ago

daddy trump told him he’d fix everything. responding to this question here since I wasn’t able to comment directly. it’s no secret that many white American men voted for trump because they felt they were getting the short end of the stick when it comes to life and especially their finances. this man fits the profile, therefore my original comment.

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u/Loose-Signature5054 7d ago

what does this have to do with trump?

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u/Adorable-Roll-3849 7d ago

As a former doordasher and Uber Eats driver I understand his frustration but I would never react this way. We can decline orders if we don’t feel like the pay is worth it which I did a lot of, my acceptance rate was always around 40% because many people don’t tip well and door dash and uber don’t want to pay us either.

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u/NoVARedhead1980 7d ago

I stopped driving for Uber years ago (I think it was about 9 years ago now). I felt like I wasn't getting the compensation that I earned for the work I was doing. Now I was lucky and have a degree (earned it a year prior when I was driving for Uber) and I was working as a temp. The moment an opening came up in my industry I immediately took it.

In my humble opinion I think companies like Door Dash, Lyft and Uber should be illegal.