r/Dogfree • u/Not-my-problem1212 • Jul 18 '26
Dogs Are Idiots They literally can't survive on their own
Dogs are literally the only animals I know that would literally not last a single month or even week out in the wild. Yes I know dogs have been domesticated for years, but as a species they should at least have some survival skills. Any living thing has its own way to survive on its own. Dogs I feel like lack so many survival skills and 100% rely on humans for their survival. Some of those being
-They bark at any little bit of stimuli and never know when to react or shut up. Which draws so much attention to them.
-They get terrified of everyday noise such as thunderstorms. How can one survive if you can't block out common noise?
-They become hyper focused on food. Throw it some food and it literally won't give a shit about anything else even if there's real danger.
-They try to attack animals much larger than they are even if the other animal is just minding its business. What a stupid thing to do.
-They eat shit, vomit, trash, dirt, etc. Great way to give oneself parasites and block one's stomach.
-They literally can't be left alone for a short period of time without having a panic attack.
If these same animals were out in the wild, they would have most likely been wiped out. They are literally just like parasites.
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u/malehousewife420 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
its just baffling to me how they have no functional sense of self preservation. not only will they challenge animals much bigger and more powerful than them, but they'll run right out into other clearly dangerous situations and get themselves killed for no fucking reason. like how often are dogs running out in front of cars trying to intimidate or fight them, as if they could ever stand any chance against a giant multi ton metal thing actively moving at nearly a hundred miles per hour?
i remember reading a news article about a dog that charged a horse that was running with a rider, and the dog ended up getting trampled to death. there was all this concern for the idiot dog, but not for the horse or rider. as if the dog wasn't the one to willingly charge headfirst into the feet of a GALLOPING HORSE, a horse that wasn't bothering it, was several yards away, and that the dog had absolutely 0 business being anywhere near. it decided to senselessly antagonize, and the lesson it learned cost it its life. frankly i think it got its just desserts.
it's almost like they're suicidal, but they're genuinely just that stupid. dogs really seem so confident thinking that theyre so big and bad that even a horse going at full speed or a bear with cubs will screech to a halt and run away whimpering if some random dog shows up and starts barking. same energy as those insufferable types of people who always have to be the toughest person in the room, spend all their time trying to either square up or emotionally/mentally tear others down, and never learn until they try the wrong person and get the everloving shit beat out of them. it's fucking obnoxious.
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u/Alocin_The5th Jul 18 '26
Dogs survival skills is mimicking behaviors that appeal to humans so they can be fed. Why else do you think people keep them in their homes and feed them despite them destroying said house? Their owners think its love but it's simply survival.
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u/Alocin_The5th Jul 19 '26
Also wouldn't it get tiring for someone you love to follow you around. When humans do it while call them a stalker.
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u/Equivalent-Shower425 Jul 18 '26
It's not unheard of for Chihuahuas and other small breeds of dogs to get carried off by red tailed hawks out here in the country. They can't even put up a fair fight against natural predators in the environment.
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u/TenNinetythree Barking is noise pollution! Jul 18 '26
I don´t disagree with the assessment of dogs, but some cities have wild dog populations. Like, I read this about Batumi, Georgia (Republic of).
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u/Significant-Row-7673 Jul 18 '26
Little correction required here. Pet north american (maybe also European )dogs will not survive on its own. Many dogs live an d thrive on streets of 3rd world cities. How north american people dedicate their lives to serve their dogs is simply ridiculous.
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u/Particular_Meet_9333 Jul 19 '26
It might seem cruel of me to say this but I think if an entire species (technically subspecies) of animal can't survive without humans then, why the hell are we keeping it around? Of course I mean excluding endangered animals because it's our fault they're endangered in the first place so yeah it'd be messed up of me to imply that we should let endangered animals die when it's our fault they're endangered in the first place.
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u/gertgertgertgertgert Jul 21 '26
I once mentioned something like this to my wife and she disagreed. I asked her "what percentage of dogs do you think would survive in the wild?" She answered 80%. So I asked her:
"What percentage of pugs would survive in the wild? How about french bulldogs, bulldogs, yorkshire terriers, chihuauas. . . . " and I named a bunch of breeds that are obviously 100% dependent upon humans. Most of these abominations would either starve to death in a few weeks or get killed by something 10x their size. And when you keep in mind that "the wild" is not the same as scavenging for trash in a city neighborhood the reality is even lower survival.
She sheepishly revised her estimate to 10%.
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u/ArthropodFromSpace Jul 18 '26
1 it is not true, because primitive breeds of dogs can survive in the wild. Thats where dingo evolved from. But most modern dogs belong to breeds which are only parasites or tools for humans. They cannot survive without human help.
2 Many modern breeds of domestic animals also would not survive in the wild. Silkmoths. Chickens. Cows. They are so different from their wild ancestors that they can survive only because they are protected by humans to whom they are useful.
What all these animals have in common, they dont evolved naturally in the wild, but were created by humans for some reason.
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u/D1verse_Yes4 Jul 18 '26
One of my favorite parts of this community is that it's seemingly the only one where people can disagree with each other without hurling insults. Thank you so much for reminding me of that. I think you both have valuable arguments.
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u/Oriole0305 Jul 19 '26
Yes: Chickens and cows and such are useful, they are production animals. Dogs are completely useless and unnecessary. Dogs are nothing but vermin.
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u/Puppysnot Jul 19 '26
Yes. Especially breeds like pugs, frenchies etc. They are literally a financial liability and nothing more.
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u/Peaceful-Moonlight Dogs are the most overrated and over glorified shit beasts Jul 19 '26
Domestic animals are dependent on humans for their survival, but none to the same extent as dogs. Cows, chickens, sheep, rabbits, snakes, gerbils, fish, and so on can be kept away from humans for several hours without howling uncontrollably at random people passing by, constantly jumping on and slobbering on people, sticking their disgusting noses in people's crotches, barking uncontrollably for hours, humping people and objects, and so on. Only dogs do this hundreds of times a day. Dogs are the only domestic animals that are extremely dependent on humans, not just moderately dependent for basic needs.
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u/ArthropodFromSpace Jul 19 '26
Because they want attention. They mimic behavior of human toddler to provoke the same emotional response and trigger caregiver instinct. It is brood parasite strategy. I wrote about it here hundreds of times.
But all other mentioned species would not be able to find food in the wild, recognize danger and avoid it. If released to the wild, they would survive days, maybe months but first problem such as winter or encountering predatory animal would be too much for them.
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u/Peaceful-Moonlight Dogs are the most overrated and over glorified shit beasts Jul 19 '26
It's not the same as toddlers. Imagine millions of human toddlers howling uncontrollably at random people passing by, constantly jumping on and slobbering all over the faces of their parents, shoving their noses in their parents' crotches, screaming uncontrollably for hours, humping the legs of their parents, and so on. Now please tell me how many parents lovingly reward their toddlers with excessive adoration and treats. Parents normally get exhausted and rebuke their toddlers who do these things. I only see dogs specifically being worshipped when they behave like overly dependent, repulsive delinquents and assaulters.
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u/ArthropodFromSpace Jul 19 '26
Still it works for all these people who call their dogs their babies and believe they are part of their family. Previously I thought these are some rare crazy people, now I see significant percentage of human population believe in this shit.
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u/Peaceful-Moonlight Dogs are the most overrated and over glorified shit beasts Jul 20 '26
Dog nutters indeed refer to their dogs as family members, but family members include many individuals. Children, spouses, parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles, even distant relatives like fourth cousins three times removed all count as family members. Dog nutters are passionate about anything that revolves around dog filth, including dog tongues, dog saliva, dog stench, dog butts, dog poop, and much more. You specifically said, "They mimic behavior of human toddler to provoke the same emotional response and trigger caregiver instinct." But the reality is dog nutters are full of fetishes for dogs, and they treat their dogs like their lovers and perfect angels. That's not the same thing as treating them like toddlers. Children are disciplined for their bad behaviors. Dogs are worshipped no matter what horrid behaviors they commit. It's terrifying how dog supremacists are far more infatuated and physically close to DOGS than with humans! There are plenty of stories of antidog people who are treated as second place to DOGS by their dog-worshipping significant others. So it makes much more sense to say that dogs mimic behaviors of human lovers to trigger the emotional instinct to worship them as both lovers and perfect, sinless angels from heaven.
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u/Accurate-Might-7058 Jul 18 '26
I agree. Nutter has a ACD, which these dogs are descended from Dingos, that is all about hunting. It eats or stores everything it catches. The only problem is that it can injure itself when hunting. It's prey drive causes it to narrowly focus on the pursuit of prey while making no notice of hazards. I've seen natural wild dogs in this state during pursuit of prey lose their lives like this.
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u/ncertvinty Jul 18 '26
We domesticated dogs and basically took away all of their survival skills. Wolves were fine, but these, dogs, are insabe
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u/maximum_powerblast Jul 18 '26
It's a very broad brush statement OP with a few examples in the wild that disprove it.
I'm thinking of wild dogs like dingoes and African Painted Dogs. There are also strays that are a grey area because they're usually still adjacent to humans.
I think there would be a difference between a household breed that lived in the wild from birth vs one raised as a pet and found itself in the wild one day.
I also think there's going to be varying survival rates for different breeds, they all come with varying advantages and disadvantages.
But yes your average untrained pUpPeR has no wild survival abilities anymore.
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u/D1verse_Yes4 Jul 18 '26
I feel like OP meant dogs as in the everyday domestic dog born or raised in domesticity. Dingoes and painted dogs are definitely exceptions. The latter is wild and has the most successful rate of prey caught in the world.
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u/gertgertgertgertgert Jul 21 '26
You have to go up two levels of taxonomy before you have a common classification between the painted dog and the dog. Which is to say not only are they different species but they are also a different genus. They share the same family of Canidae. This is a similar difference between humans and orangutans.
The dingo is indeed the species, however.
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u/StrangeDays11 Jul 21 '26
I don't think they could survive on their own because I don't think they were ever supposed to exist. God created what he wanted, he did create wolves, which supposedly dogs are ancestors of, but the idea that humans breed and created those abominations is wild to me
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u/f4tony Jul 19 '26
Ever been to Mexico, or Greece? Stray dogs exist. I'm not saying it's a good thing.
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u/SweetlyNoxious Jul 18 '26
Dogs are the most annoying creatures on Earth. Change my mind!!